[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...

George g at 8vue.com
Thu Feb 26 00:26:54 UTC 2009


Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken. 
Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.

Adam Mordecai wrote:
> I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they 
> are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get 
> recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an 
> excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once 
> in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow 
> as an industry.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam Mordecai, Partner
> Advomatic, LLC
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:
>
> I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs, 
> or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that 
> doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to 
> these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his 
> "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying 
> to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response 
> was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.
>
> I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would 
> want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out 
> of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it 
> at that.
>
> --
> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
> ZivTech, LLC
> http://zivtech.com
> alex at zivtech.com <mailto:alex at zivtech.com>
> office: (267) 940-7737
> cell: (215) 866-8956
> skype: zivtech
> aim: zivtech
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com 
> <mailto:sam at samcohen.com>> wrote:
>
>     I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
>     entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet. 
>
>     My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with
>     his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying
>     others.  I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal
>     session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.
>
>     Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if
>     someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault. 
>     John should have thought twice before firing off that email . 
>
>     Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or
>     the police called?
>
>     Sam
>
>
>
>
>
>     On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com
>     <mailto:mark at markery.com>> wrote:
>
>         I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful
>         forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this
>         sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather
>         than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to
>         offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this offline.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
>
>             -------- Original Message --------
>             Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
>             From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com
>             <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
>             Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
>             To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
>
>
>             "... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"
>
>             There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out
>             right threates" to
>             physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This
>             is blatant slander
>             and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person
>             goes out of their
>             way to try to ruin someone else's business by making
>             completely false
>             claims?
>
>             John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your
>             only response was
>             "block my address." It seems like you were the one that
>             went out of your way
>             to harass him.
>
>
>             Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
>             >
>             > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why
>             he spoke to alex
>             > in
>             > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly
>             amusing... right down
>             > to
>
>             > the out right threats of physical violence.
>             >
>             > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"
>             <karen at florezgroup.com <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>> wrote:
>             >
>             >
>             > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John
>             co-owns with me.
>             > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.
>             John called Alex
>             > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told
>             John in a very
>             > rude,
>             > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services
>             and is hosting a
>             > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John
>             could learn a
>             > tip
>             > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with
>             John for 8 years and
>             > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not
>             going to take
>             > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did
>             nothing to insult
>             > or
>             > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
>             >
>             > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to
>             email John, but he
>             > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John
>             called Alex to
>             > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing
>             emails did not
>             > stop
>             > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally
>             after John said he
>             > would call the police immediately that the barrage of
>             emails finally
>             > ceased.
>             >
>             > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to
>             discuss this in
>             > more
>             > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
>             >
>             > Thanks,
>             >
>             > Karen
>             >
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