[consulting] Professionalism

Sam Cohen sam at samcohen.com
Tue Nov 24 14:30:55 UTC 2009


It makes perfect sense to me that a company with payroll to meet, rent to
pay and lots of expenses would not even consider a job for less than, say,
$3000.  And if I had to guess, that's what's happening here.  They're
pricing it at what makes sense for their business model.

That said, I've seen many larger shops tell their clients that this isn't a
job for them and that the client would be wise to find a freelancer or small
shop who can do it as a fraction of the price.

This goes the other way too.  Freelancers who have really big sites come
their way, should sometimes pass them on to larger companies who are more
capable of handling it -- and the larger companies should be passing the
small jobs and sites to the freelancers and small shops.

Sam



On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Nancy Wichmann <nan_wich at bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Fred Jones wrote:
> > hired a fancy NYC company ... custom node template, based on a PSD.
>
> That seems pretty darned expensive to me. When I worked at IBM, nothing
> could be done by one person. You had to have an account manager, project
> manager, architect, QA, etc. Each had his/her own hours to bill, and none
> would be as low as $100/hr. However, that still seems quite high to theme a
> node, but I've never worked with a PSD. I've done several node type
> templates and not even my first one when I had to learn took 33 hours. If
> they have to do some hooks to make sure variables are available, it could
> easily take more than 3 hours, but nowhere close to 33.
>
> Nancy E. Wichmann, PMP
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Fred Jones
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> Subject: [consulting] Professionalism
>
> I work with someone on a Drupal 6 site and he hired a fancy NYC
> company (that charges well over $100 / hour) to do some more work on
> the site. The client asked me to write up a certain job and include
> some time estimates. Part of it is a custom node template, based on a
> PSD. The site template remains the same--this node template is just to
> customize the content section. OK, it may involve a *bit* of PHP for
> special fields, but it's still just a node template.
>
> I estimated 3 hours and the NYers 33 hours. They estimate over $3300
> to make one node template!
>
> I don't understand how they are able to have enough business and a
> good enough reputation to be charging high prices if they don't know
> what they're doing. Because they don't--33 hours for a node template
> is silly I think. The other programmer we use could do it in 3 hours I
> think (and he's less than $100). He's just busy...
>
> F
>
> PS: Thank you for listening to my rant. I feel better now. :)
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