[consulting] A chuckle

[Sami Khan]

People,

Enjoy the party while it lasts folks. If you think you will be able to
charge your $50-$150 per hour for your services as they are now in the
foreseeable future... you are surely delusional. The services will have to
change, and that means the markets will have to keep growing. As long as
this keeps happening, the chances of you making a buck are probably not
going away. However, as we speak, there are a number of factors working
against you.

Are unions the answers? I doubt it, they are inefficient... but really if
you are an individual, and have no say in the way taxing policy is
developed; then I think they are the only chance of you getting what you
want; potentially at a cost to the system and output. 

The idea of exploiting the worker is a bit much though... but that's why I
don't sub-contract or work in non-egalitarian relationships.

Also, I don't get all the "outrage", Victor is free to put out his
views... Has the American worker been so conditioned as to express outrage
at any ideological views which are not compatible with those of the elites
in his country, the more I think about it; the more it seems to be the
case.

Also check out this video, about the totalitarian state of the American
mindset:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo

He is also right about services like oDesk diminishing at least segments
of the market. Will this trend continue, despite the idea that this is a
"pessimistic" outlook, yes it will; capitalism is suppose to work this way.
You have to keep yourself viable and ahead of the pack, not to get lost in
the race. Going forward web development and design is about fashion, not
about the technical though the technical may make certain fashions
possible... so as long as we can keep changing the fashion, and maintain
eye balls; the longer we can keep charging the prices that we have been
charging. You get away from that growth, and your salaries will plummet.

Sami

On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:37:49 -0700, Kevin Davison <kevin at quevin.com> wrote:
> Per hour... hehe.
> 
> We've been defining costs here, but what about the Drupal "EXPERT" term
> that's emphasized so strongly?
> 
> Hobbyist vs. EXPERT
> 
> What if you're an EXPERT who also enjoys Drupal as a hobby too? And is
an
> expert Developer defined by http://certifiedtorock.com/ #11? Some
clients
> probably care less if you contribute back to the Drupal community to
> achieve that rating.
> 
> So if an EXPERT (based in the USA/EU) would charge $300 per hour, could
> (or, would) they do this site in an hour? :-)
> (No.)
> 
> You'd have to be an "EXPERT" charging $11/hour for ~27 hours of work to
do
> this, I think...
> 
> On Aug 6, 2010, at 15:12 PM, John Saward wrote:
> 
>> Good client. Clear communication. $300 per hour is possibly on the high
>> side for the work. I'd bid $210 per hour and run away with it.
>> 
>> On 07/08/2010, at 5:57 AM, Jeff Greenberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Received this request for a bid today. Still chuckling.
>>> 
>>> You have been invited by the employer to participate in a private
>>> auction. We would like to have an informational portal for all of the
>>> roles in our company. The site will be made with the Drupal CMS and
>>> therefore we require an EXPERT drupal developer.  Please don't bid if
>>> youre only building drupal websites as your hobby. You should be well
>>> familiar with content types and views, users integration in Drupal,
>>> advanced search and permission functions, multilingual sites
(including
>>> rtl languages)...We can say that we are very strict with timelines and
>>> very clear with requirements so please give us the right estimation
from
>>> the beginning...
>>> 
>>> Max Bid:$300
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