[consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour

[Eric Goldhagen]

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At 3:44 PM -0400 8/21/10, Jeff Greenberg wrote:
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>Subject: Re: [consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour 
>Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:38:59 -0400 From: Jeff Greenberg 
><mailto:jeff at ayendesigns.com><jeff at ayendesigns.com> Organization: 
>Ayen Designs To: Eric Goldhagen 
><mailto:eric at openflows.com><eric at openflows.com>
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>Your left must be different than ours. Our progressives (considered the
>left of the left) identify something the state isn't in control of,
>create a new government entity to control it, and create a taxation
>structure to fund it... i.e. the government (and tax dept) get larger
>with every program.
>
>On 08/21/2010 03:42 PM, Eric Goldhagen wrote:
>>  At 3:05 PM -0400 8/21/10, Jeff Greenberg wrote:
>>>  I don't think the thoughts represent anything new here. The extreme
>>>  right feel that people should be free to choose (or not) everything. The
>>>  extreme left feel that the government should provide everything or
>>>  otherwise control it. Most people fall in between.
>>
>>  Jeff,
>>
>>  While I'll agree that most people fall in between, I find your
>>  definitions of right and left to be rather inaccurate.
>>
>>  The extreme right wants complete control over the individual by the
>>  state.
>>  The extreme right views rights as being rooted from ownership,
>>  therefor tends to make social/political decisions based on the needs
>>  of corporate and business entities.
>>  The extreme right views the wealth of society as something to be held
>>  privately.
>>  The extreme right views poverty as necessary.
>>
>>
>>  The extreme left wants to abolish the state entirely, replacing it was
>>  a more decentralized and to whatever extent possible, voluntary
>>  participation.
>>  The extreme left views rights as being based on an individual's
>>  existence within and participation in society.
>>  The extreme left views the wealth of society as belonging to all that
>>  create it (which in general is really everyone).
>>  The extreme left views poverty as a danger to the health of society as
>>  a whole.
>>
>>  I could go on, but I'll stop there.
>>
>>  --Eric
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