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Bèr Kessels wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Op donderdag 15 december 2005 19:44, schreef Laura Scott:
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<pre wrap="">I don't mean to be contrarian here. That's just my own business
philosophy. I don't turn away a client ready to buy, but I don't want to
disable features just to lower the site to his/her expectations.
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Laura,
we are not discussing removal *forever*. In fact what I want to achieve with
this DrupalCOM is precisely what yyou want.
Only i think that trowing people into the deep, jsut like that is a bad route
to take. Hell, still 90% of the inter-net surfers does so on IE, while anyone
knows that safari/firefox/konq/opera is waaaay better. And Just Installing
[tm] Firefox for them often makes them even more like
Open Source is poop. Look: My Favorite Movie Trailer Watch Site, or My Bank
doesnt even work in it.
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I was objecting to disabling capabilities of Drupal, which at least
one person endorsed. I'm glad you're not advocating that.<br>
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Same goes for Drupal. If they do *not* want logins, or *not* want Posted By
Nathaly on 12 / 12 / 05, they might have a reason for that. But if you go
ahead and tell them they really need it, they will get angry.
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I consider these to be theming decisions. No date, no byline? That's a
UI decision that boils down to theming work. Most brochure-type sites I
do have, at most, an "updated 10 Dec 2005" kind of text, usually down
at the bottom of the page, and have date/author info only on the blog
(if there is one). But I don't consider this to be changing the
function of Drupal, just the presentation of the info, which includes
what info to present. Does this alternate distro make that easier
somehow?<br>
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I think we might be in heated agreement on goals. Yes, you want to
accommodate the clients' needs. But they don't always know the best way
to do that, and if they cannot trust your advice on that, then it's a
wonder they're writing any checks for the work. <br>
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And before another straw man is set up, no, I'm not suggesting anyone
argue with their clients. :p Sure, some just want what they know they
want, and don't want to be bothered with things they might not know,
but in my experience these people are rare and tend not to stay in
business long. Most of our clients WANT to learn. Maybe that's because
most of them are coming to us because we work with Drupal, and not
because we're just XYZ web designers, so that certainly makes our
client base self-selective.<br>
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Laura
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