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We require that all of our PHP programmers become Zend certified within
the first three months of working with us, not because we think that
certified programmers are any smarter or necessarily any better than
non-certified programmers, but because it means that at the very least
we know that they've been exposed to a structured curriculum that
covers all the important aspects of PHP programming. One of the things
that we've noticed is that while "self-taught" programmers are often
incredibly bright and talented, there are sometimes gaps in their
knowledge of some areas, and that those gaps can be filled by exposure
to a curriculum that focuses on industry-standard best practices.
Making sure that our programmers and developers receive ongoing
training and professional development is also key.<br>
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I do think that a Drupal certification at some point would be helpful,
and would help a lot of people better understand the "Drupal Way". On
the other hand, I also agree that Drupal at present may be too much of
a moving target for a full-fledged certification program to be really
useful. As Drupal continues to mature and the time between major
releases becomes longer, an Association-recognized certification
program is definitely something the community should look at;
fortunately in the meantime we have folks like those at Lullabot
already doing a great job of educating people about it. <br>
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<pre wrap="">Karoly,
Isn't that a bit like saying modules don't need documentation? If
someone wants to know what a module does, can't they just read the
code?
I've had several MSDN certifications over the years and I agree that
they are essentially meaningless, but asking a potential employer to
take a look at a job candidate's commits stopped being realistic when
Drupal related jobs started popping up at places other than shops run
by key Drupal developers.
The great work you, Earl, and many other contributors done over the
years have led to Drupal's adoption outside these initial developer
run shops.
Believe it or not, there are people out there who are smart enough to
recognize Drupal's strengths, but aren't a developer and can't
evaluate the quality of a candidate's commits.
Not everyone is a developer... and that's a good thing.
- Kevin Reynen
On Dec 19, 2007 7:24 AM, Karoly Negyesi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:karoly@negyesi.net"><karoly@negyesi.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Your contributions prove you are good at Drupal, not some piece of paper.
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<pre wrap="">I agree. Would you ask Earl Miles or me some piece of paper? Your code
speaks better than a piece of paper...
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