<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">additionally there is such a demand for drupalistas these days, they'd be foolish to walk away. Make them meet your demands. They need you more than you need them.<div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div>Adam Mordecai</div><div>Advomatic Partner</div><div>---------</div><div>AIM: AdamMordecai</div><div>Main: (303) 733-0215</div><div>Cell: (646) 625-9010</div><div>Fax: (213) 402-3541</div><div>----------</div><div>Advomatic</div><div>243 5th Ave, Suite 460</div><div>New York, NY 10016</div><div><a href="http://www.advomatic.com">http://www.advomatic.com</a></div><br></div></div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Aug 6, 2008, at 8/6/08•9:51 , Roshan Shah - Gloscon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir="ltr">Agreed. Bug is a bug but the fundamental difference is that Open Source software is not owned by 1 company just as it is in proprietary world. Drupal is popular because of its stable core and a very strong developer and user community. But there is no way any consultant or any consulting company should accept any financial liability should there be any bug/defect in Drupal - because it is collective development and contribution of many people with no intention of getting $$$ by contributing back the code to the community.<br> <br>When someone works, they do work for here. Our contracts have nearly 60+ assumptions where we cover almost every risk. We even limit our liability to core or contributed modules or the development we do to only 30 days post deployment. We even have contracts written that clients have to test the staging version and report all bugs within 7 days after we put the development version on staging.<br> <br>Adam is right - the way the original contract in this thread is drafted is a huge risk. We certainly would walk away from the project rather than get into such contracts.<br><br>Roshan<br>604-630-4292<br><a href="http://www.gloscon.com">http://www.gloscon.com</a><br> Skype : bpocanada<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jason Flatt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drupal@oadaeh.net">drupal@oadaeh.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed Aug 6 2008 4:20:49 pm Sam Cohen wrote:<br> ><br> > When building a Drupal site, I would never assume liability for bugs,<br> > unless bugs are very clearly defined as part of something I wrote. It's<br> > not like they're paying a $100,000 licensing fee for the software. It's<br> > open source after all. There are going to be bugs --<br> ><br> <br> </div>I've got news for you. There are bugs in $100,000 licensing fee software. It<br> doesn't matter whether the source is open or closed. Making excuses for open<br> source software doesn't help its acceptance.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> <br> --<br> Jason Flatt<br> <a href="http://www.oadaeh.net/" target="_blank">http://www.oadaeh.net/</a><br> Father of Six: <a href="http://www.flattfamily.com/" target="_blank">http://www.flattfamily.com/</a> (Joseph, 15; Cramer, 13; Travis,<br> 11; Angela; Harry, 8; and William, 2)<br> Linux User: <a href="http://www.kubuntu.org/" target="_blank">http://www.kubuntu.org/</a><br> Drupal Fanatic: <a href="http://drupal.org/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">consulting mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Gloscon Solutions Inc<br>Open Source Web 2.0 Development Company<br>*Drupal *Ruby on Rails<br>T : 604.630.4292 (Canada) <br>T : 323.319.3609 (US)<br>Skype : bpocanada<br> Training/Incubation/Dedicated Resources : OpenKick.com<br><br><br><br>***************************************************************<br>This email may contain confidential information, and is intended only for the named recipient and may be privileged. Distribution or copying of this email by anyone other than the named recipient is prohibited. If you are not the named recipient, please notify us immediately and permanently destroy this email and all copies of it. <br> ***************************************************************<br> </div> _______________________________________________<br>consulting mailing list<br><a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a><br>http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting<br></div><br></div></body></html>