<div dir="ltr">Totally agree with Adam's point<br>--mariano<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Adam Mordecai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mordecai@advomatic.com">mordecai@advomatic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I asked Aaron Welch, my business partner and legal expert on this<br>
stuff and this was his response:<br>
<br>
NONONONONO nononono no. no. no. no. N.O.<br>
<br>
Do not do this. That is totally fucked, no way, no how. No. you should<br>
always limit your liability to the amount of money paid to you for the<br>
work, allowing for additional liability or offering a warranty or<br>
saying that the product is suitable for any particular purpose is not<br>
acceptable. The client should bear the risks of operating the product<br>
for any particular purpose, not you for making it for them, to their<br>
specifications. If you sign this, you will be fucked. Get a lawyer. I<br>
am not a lawyer, but this would be totally not acceptable to us, it<br>
should not be to you unless you are being paid an absurd amount and<br>
you have a huge errors and omissions general liability insurance policy.<br>
<br>
I'd be happy to share the contract we use, that specifically says the<br>
opposite of this.<br>
<br>
-A<br>
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On Aug 6, 2008, at 8/6/08•4:06 , Morbus Iff wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
I've been writing software (for hire or otherwise) for ten years or so.<br>
<br>
I've never run into an instance, or heard of a case where, once a piece<br>
of software has been "shipped" or "finished", the developer of that<br>
software is liable for Things That Go Wrong With It. (I'm exempting<br>
trojans and viruses, etc. - assume legitimate software here).<br>
<br>
Specifically, I've received a contract for a new job which states that I<br>
(as the Consultant) would be financially liable for any bugs in my<br>
created Drupal code. I balked that I'd never heard of such a thing<br>
before and received a revised version which now reads like this:<br>
<br>
"The Consultant will also be responsible for any damage, loss or<br>
liability (whether criminal or civil) of or suffered by the<br>
Company ... in connection with any act or omission of the<br>
Consultant ... In order to compensate for this, the Consultant<br>
agrees to resolve any issue with his code (and his code only)<br>
as it arises at no additional cost to the Company. Correcting<br>
the problem code is the limit of liability to which the<br>
Consultant will be held."<br>
<br>
I'm still cautious about this - while the final two lines state that my<br>
only liability is fixing bugs for free (which is perfectly fine with<br>
me), the first line still contains scares like "civil" and "criminal<br>
liability", "damage" and "loss". Being "responsible" for "loss" still<br>
sounds like I'd pay money if "problem code" caused financial damage.<br>
<br>
A few questions:<br>
<br>
* has anyone else seen something like this?<br>
<br>
* has anyone else /agreed/ to something like this?<br>
<br>
* are my worries about financial responsibility accurate?<br>
<br>
* how should I respond to this?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Morbus Iff ( and think about the bad things that I didn't do )<br>
Technical: <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779" target="_blank">http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779</a><br>
Enjoy: <a href="http://www.disobey.com/" target="_blank">http://www.disobey.com/</a> and <a href="http://www.videounderbelly.com/" target="_blank">http://www.videounderbelly.com/</a><br>
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