What's with all these people filling my inbox with emails telling me to
stop filling their inboxes?  This is a legitimate conversation from
members of this community and there are people here who want to listen
and participate.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that if you don&#39;t like the conversation, you should just delete the message or get the digest mode.  Or set up a filter that says if subject line is &quot;A recruiter to watch out for...&quot; delete.<br>
<br>And let the rest of us talk without having rude people in the background telling us to shut up.  <br>
<br>
Sam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, George <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken.<br>
Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
Adam Mordecai wrote:<br>
&gt; I can&#39;t leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they<br>
&gt; are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get<br>
&gt; recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an<br>
&gt; excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once<br>
&gt; in a while. We should have each other&#39;s backs if we are going to grow<br>
&gt; as an industry.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Adam Mordecai, Partner<br>
&gt; Advomatic, LLC<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,<br>
&gt; or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that<br>
&gt; doesn&#39;t mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to<br>
&gt; these &quot;services&quot;. He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his<br>
&gt; &quot;pitch&quot; to me, but I don&#39;t have time for hucksters I don&#39;t know trying<br>
&gt; to sell me a service I don&#39;t need and didn&#39;t ask for. His response<br>
&gt; was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would<br>
&gt; want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out<br>
&gt; of the blue. Out of respect for the list I&#39;m going to have to leave it<br>
&gt; at that.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br>
&gt; ZivTech, LLC<br>
&gt; <a href="http://zivtech.com" target="_blank">http://zivtech.com</a><br>
</div></div>&gt; <a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com">alex@zivtech.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com">alex@zivtech.com</a>&gt;<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; office: (267) 940-7737<br>
&gt; cell: (215) 866-8956<br>
&gt; skype: zivtech<br>
&gt; aim: zivtech<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen &lt;<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly<br>
&gt;     entertaining -- and Alex hasn&#39;t had a chance to defend himself yet.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with<br>
&gt;     his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying<br>
&gt;     others.  I don&#39;t see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal<br>
&gt;     session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if<br>
&gt;     someone took it upon himself to do so, that&#39;s not Alex&#39;s fault.<br>
&gt;     John should have thought twice before firing off that email .<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or<br>
&gt;     the police called?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     Sam<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;     On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markery.com">mark@markery.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">&gt;     &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:mark@markery.com">mark@markery.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful<br>
&gt;         forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this<br>
&gt;         sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather<br>
&gt;         than shared with the masses. I don&#39;t feel I have anything to<br>
&gt;         offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this offline.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             -------- Original Message --------<br>
&gt;             Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...<br>
&gt;             From: Karen Sironen &lt;<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">&gt;             &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;             Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">&gt;             To: <a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             &quot;... right down to the out right threats of physical violence&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             There is absolutely no reference and certainly no &quot;out<br>
&gt;             right threates&quot; to<br>
&gt;             physical action or violence in John&#39;s emails to you. This<br>
&gt;             is blatant slander<br>
&gt;             and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person<br>
&gt;             goes out of their<br>
&gt;             way to try to ruin someone else&#39;s business by making<br>
&gt;             completely false<br>
&gt;             claims?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your<br>
&gt;             only response was<br>
&gt;             &quot;block my address.&quot; It seems like you were the one that<br>
&gt;             went out of your way<br>
&gt;             to harass him.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             Darrel O&#39;Pry-2 wrote:<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why<br>
&gt;             he spoke to alex<br>
&gt;             &gt; in<br>
&gt;             &gt; that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly<br>
&gt;             amusing... right down<br>
&gt;             &gt; to<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; the out right threats of physical violence.<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, &quot;Karen Sironen&quot;<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">&gt;             &lt;<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John<br>
&gt;             co-owns with me.<br>
&gt;             &gt; This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.<br>
&gt;             John called Alex<br>
&gt;             &gt; to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told<br>
&gt;             John in a very<br>
&gt;             &gt; rude,<br>
&gt;             &gt; abrasive way that Alex doesn&#39;t need recruiting services<br>
&gt;             and is hosting a<br>
&gt;             &gt; tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John<br>
&gt;             could learn a<br>
&gt;             &gt; tip<br>
&gt;             &gt; or two from attending this tutorial. I&#39;ve worked with<br>
&gt;             John for 8 years and<br>
&gt;             &gt; he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he&#39;s not<br>
&gt;             going to take<br>
&gt;             &gt; someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did<br>
&gt;             nothing to insult<br>
&gt;             &gt; or<br>
&gt;             &gt; harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; But Alex didn&#39;t stop there. Not only did he continue to<br>
&gt;             email John, but he<br>
&gt;             &gt; got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John<br>
&gt;             called Alex to<br>
&gt;             &gt; tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing<br>
&gt;             emails did not<br>
&gt;             &gt; stop<br>
&gt;             &gt; even after John threatened legal action. It was finally<br>
&gt;             after John said he<br>
&gt;             &gt; would call the police immediately that the barrage of<br>
&gt;             emails finally<br>
&gt;             &gt; ceased.<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to<br>
&gt;             discuss this in<br>
&gt;             &gt; more<br>
&gt;             &gt; detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
&gt;             &gt; Karen<br>
&gt;             &gt;<br>
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