It seems quite on-topic to me if I'm a Drupal consultant to know if a particular firm has bad practices (so I can avoid them).. so I don't see how finding out "who's telling the truth here" is so off-topic.<br>
<br>V<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:40 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ixlr8@comcast.net">ixlr8@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">OK. This is really getting ridiculous. I, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this, get hundreds of emails per day. I scan through most of them, and if they don't require my attention, I delete them, and forget about them. <br>
<br>@Karen, when you rehashed this issue you were shooting yourself in the foot. I read the original thread about this, and I promptly forgot about it. It wasn't that important in my mind. Now that this thread has been beating a dead horse, I'm going to remember your firm, and remember that you caused this onslaught of emails that's now clogging my inbox. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even thought twice about it. Good job doing "damage control."<br>
<br>@Everyone else who's replied to this (with the exception of the person who suggested we drop the subject- I didn't catch your name): Really? Really now? Is this issue THAT important that we need to harp on it this much? I don't know about you, but I have better things to do with my time than sit here and read all of these emails. And yes, I read each and every one, because the ONE email that I don't read, is going to actually have something important in it. That's just Murphy's Law in action. It's fine if you find this entertaining. I have no problem with that. But take it off list. This list isn't the flame list. It's a list for consultants. And that's all there is too it. Stay on topic, and quit beating a dead horse. We get it already.<br>
<br>Mike<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Sam Cohen" <<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com" target="_blank">sam@samcohen.com</a>><br>To: "A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers" <<a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org" target="_blank">consulting@drupal.org</a>><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:04:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...<br><br>I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet. <br>
<br>My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.<br>
<br>Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault. John should have thought twice before firing off that email . <br><br>Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or the police called?<br>
<br>Sam<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@markery.com" target="_blank">mark@markery.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span style="font-family: Verdana; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;">I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this offline.<br>
<br>Thanks,<br><br>Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)<br><br>
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From: Karen Sironen <<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com" target="_blank">karen@florezgroup.com</a>><br>
Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm<br>
To: <a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org" target="_blank">consulting@drupal.org</a><br>
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<br>
"... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"<br>
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There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out right threates" to<br>
physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This is blatant slander<br>
and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person goes out of their<br>
way to try to ruin someone else's business by making completely false<br>
claims?<br>
<br>
John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your only response was<br>
"block my address." It seems like you were the one that went out of your way<br>
to harass him.<br>
<br>
<br>
Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why he spoke to alex<br>
> in<br></div>
> that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly amusing... right down<br>
> to<div><div></div><div><br>
> the out right threats of physical violence.<br>
> <br>
> On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen" <<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com" target="_blank">karen@florezgroup.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John co-owns with me.<br>
> This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex. John called Alex<br>
> to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told John in a very<br>
> rude,<br>
> abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services and is hosting a<br>
> tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John could learn a<br>
> tip<br>
> or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with John for 8 years and<br>
> he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not going to take<br>
> someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did nothing to insult<br>
> or<br>
> harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.<br>
> <br>
> But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to email John, but he<br>
> got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John called Alex to<br>
> tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing emails did not<br>
> stop<br>
> even after John threatened legal action. It was finally after John said he<br>
> would call the police immediately that the barrage of emails finally<br>
> ceased.<br>
> <br>
> If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to discuss this in<br>
> more<br>
> detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> Karen<br>
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