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<br></div><div><br><div>V<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, George <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken.<br>
Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
Adam Mordecai wrote:<br>
> I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they<br>
> are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get<br>
> recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an<br>
> excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once<br>
> in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow<br>
> as an industry.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Adam Mordecai, Partner<br>
> Advomatic, LLC<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:<br>
><br>
> I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,<br>
> or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that<br>
> doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to<br>
> these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his<br>
> "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying<br>
> to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response<br>
> was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.<br>
><br>
> I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would<br>
> want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out<br>
> of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it<br>
> at that.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br>
> ZivTech, LLC<br>
> <a href="http://zivtech.com" target="_blank">http://zivtech.com</a><br>
</div></div>> <a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com">alex@zivtech.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com">alex@zivtech.com</a>><br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> office: (267) 940-7737<br>
> cell: (215) 866-8956<br>
> skype: zivtech<br>
> aim: zivtech<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly<br>
> entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.<br>
><br>
> My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with<br>
> his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying<br>
> others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal<br>
> session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.<br>
><br>
> Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if<br>
> someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.<br>
> John should have thought twice before firing off that email .<br>
><br>
> Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or<br>
> the police called?<br>
><br>
> Sam<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <<a href="mailto:mark@markery.com">mark@markery.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mark@markery.com">mark@markery.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful<br>
> forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this<br>
> sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather<br>
> than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to<br>
> offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this offline.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)<br>
><br>
> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...<br>
> From: Karen Sironen <<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a>>><br>
> Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> To: <a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> "... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"<br>
><br>
> There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out<br>
> right threates" to<br>
> physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This<br>
> is blatant slander<br>
> and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person<br>
> goes out of their<br>
> way to try to ruin someone else's business by making<br>
> completely false<br>
> claims?<br>
><br>
> John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your<br>
> only response was<br>
> "block my address." It seems like you were the one that<br>
> went out of your way<br>
> to harass him.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why<br>
> he spoke to alex<br>
> > in<br>
> > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly<br>
> amusing... right down<br>
> > to<br>
><br>
> > the out right threats of physical violence.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> <<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:karen@florezgroup.com">karen@florezgroup.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John<br>
> co-owns with me.<br>
> > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.<br>
> John called Alex<br>
> > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told<br>
> John in a very<br>
> > rude,<br>
> > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services<br>
> and is hosting a<br>
> > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John<br>
> could learn a<br>
> > tip<br>
> > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with<br>
> John for 8 years and<br>
> > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not<br>
> going to take<br>
> > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did<br>
> nothing to insult<br>
> > or<br>
> > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.<br>
> ><br>
> > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to<br>
> email John, but he<br>
> > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John<br>
> called Alex to<br>
> > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing<br>
> emails did not<br>
> > stop<br>
> > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally<br>
> after John said he<br>
> > would call the police immediately that the barrage of<br>
> emails finally<br>
> > ceased.<br>
> ><br>
> > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to<br>
> discuss this in<br>
> > more<br>
> > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> ><br>
> > Karen<br>
> ><br>
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