<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, George <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">Brian Vuyk wrote:<br>
> I think this mailing list has the potential to be one of the best tools<br>
> for improving Drupal in the community. As a group, I imagine we put<br>
> Drupal through a larger variety of real-world projects than any other<br>
> group. I also believe that we have the best view of Drupal's<br>
> shortcomings. This is what we can use to improve Drupal. I believe open<br>
> and honest discussion as to the suitability of Drupal to various project<br>
> types will drive improvement.<br>
</div>isn't that more suited to the dev list or a 'drupal shortcomings' mail<br>
list, and not a consultant list? and when you say 'this is what we can<br>
use to improve drupal', then, maybe i'm missing something, but your<br>
profile doesn't show any core patches or modules (user/46854?), of<br>
course you're not obliged to post any, but, this is not a personal<br>
attack, but to everyone - what exactly are *you* doing to improve drupal<br>
with the help of this mailing list?</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Lets see I wrote imagecache when people were asking about how do you manipulate images with drupal... I wrote nodereferrer while people were chatting about using node reference, some praising it's glories others following and finding short comings... Should I go through the rest of the code I've written for Drupal for you? There is a good bit of it... I pay close attention to this list and it fuels me with ideas about which parts of Drupal to work on.. or what I could code up next to get some some dev contracts from some consultants... </div>
<div><br></div><div>So whether "consultants" are leveraging this list or improving Drupal themselves... There are others who observe the list traffic and red it...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br>
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going into webchick mode, she would say it's great people are discussing<br>
drupal's shortcomings, but if nothing is being done, then it's hot air,<br>
and a waste of time. drupal is a do-ocracy to quote add1sun. but still,<br>
this is a consultant list, not a help-drupal list.<br>
<br>
to the non-programmers, even if an answer was given to your problem, any<br>
programmer will tell you there's more than one solution to a problem,<br>
so, the solution for person x, may not be right for you. discussing<br>
problems with how to do something is a support issue, and just *is not*<br>
a consultants issue. (working on the assumption consultants actually<br>
know their sh*zzle, which may i assume that mostly, they do...)<br>
<br>
more of my 2c<br>
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