<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;">Well of course if a designer doesn't understand CSS than they won't be much use for coding. This would be an issue for anyone still mired in old school HTML design. My point was simply that if one could design properly using CSS completely for design while using HTML only for semantics, then they can do the same for Drupal.<br><br>If a designer gives me a screenshot of how he wants something to look, I should be able to build that as a theme in Drupal. I'm about to do just that! Check me in a few months when I am all done. :)<br><br>Mark<br><br><br>
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Subject: Re: [consulting] Drupal-friendly Graphic Design (new subject)<br>
From: Matt Chapman <Matt@NinjitsuWeb.com><br>
Date: Tue, March 10, 2009 3:25 pm<br>
To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers<br>
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mark@markery.com wrote:<br>
> Is there a design that can't be done in Drupal? I always figured you <br>
> could do anything that you can do with standard HTML.<br>
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No, but some designs are easier than others.<br>
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> Shouldn't the design drive the programming rather than the other way <br>
> round?<br>
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No, because of the above. If you decide how it looks before you decide <br>
how it works, you'll inevitably have forgotten to account for some <br>
feature in your design. But since you can Drupal will let you design the <br>
look of a feature any way you can possibly imagine, you can start with <br>
the features and then add design on top.<br>
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The problem is, even most designers lack imagination. Once they see it <br>
in Garland, they can't think outside the box. I haven't figured out how <br>
to solve this chicken egg problem yet.<br>
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But in my experience, whenever there's a problem implementing a design <br>
in Drupal, the weakness is in the designer/themer, and not with Drupal.<br>
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I once worked with a third-party designer selected by the client who was <br>
used to doing static sites via Dreamweaver. I provided HTML and CSS <br>
templates, and all he had to do was tweak to his liking. What he <br>
delivered completely ignored the templates I had provided, and although <br>
he tried to get the client to blame Drupal, and nearly succeeded, he <br>
ultimately he was forced to admit that he didn't really understand how <br>
to use CSS. I then spent three days hacking at his Dreamweaver output to <br>
make it work, and re-slicing and compressing his images so that the user <br>
didn't need to download a full MB of background images for each page.<br>
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A nice portfolio does not a web designer make... :-(<br>
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-Matt<br>
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