It's the same thing, and if it isn't, the aim is to make it the same thing.<br><br>The aim is to drive down wages and worsen working conditions. The aim is to make people afraid of being able to take a break, or answer a friends ping on messenger. <br>
<br>Proving to the boss with a whip you're on the go, and if you take a break you may not get paid, is sweatshop conditions.<br><br>No disservice done.<br><br>No-one voluntarily works in a sweatshop either. It's because they may not have work. Citing the "freedom" to accept or not these conditions is tantamount to a "freedom to work" position. <br>
<br>No-one has that freedom if they don't have work. There are tons of people in the IT industry without work. These sweatshop conditions must never be allowed to become "acceptable".<br><br>Victor<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Sam Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<br>The attempt by you of posting here in order to normalize and pass off as perfectly acceptable a power "master"/"slave" relationship between those selling and purchasing labor power needs to be denounced, as several here on this thread already have.<br>
<br>I believe personally that it is brazen of you to defend sweat shop conditions, where you as a purchaser of labor power get to pry into the private screen of someone selling their labor power to you!</blockquote></div>
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<br><br>Who said anything about sweatshop conditions? I think its unfair of you to accuse Matt of that. <br><br>He's simply trying to make sure that the folks he hires are working. Every employer in the world does that, and in remote work environments, it's particularly important. <br>
<br> As free individuals they can chose not to accept that type of monitoring. <br><br>I wouldn't work under those conditions right now, because I have plenty of work. <br><br>But if I really needed the work and the condition was that I would be monitored, I would take it. <br>
<br>I hardly see that as slavery -- it's just being held accountable. <br><br>There is an enormous amount of real suffering in the world by those who work in slavery or under sweatshop conditions. You do them a disservice by equating their condition with an Odesk worker having their computer monitored. <br>
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