What I said is from experience.<br><br>Try loading PNGfix on more than 20 images, plus some jQuery plugins for effects and you will see how IE6 will give you a "Script not responding". Not to mention that PNGfix sometimes fails to render an image properly. (It sometimes randomly display images completely distorted).<br>
<br>One of our lastest sites is <a href="http://shoeguru.ca">http://shoeguru.ca</a> and we did have a lot of issues (and we still have) with IE6. CSS wasn't really important to be honest.<br><br clear="all">Ivan Soto Fernandez<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Ashraf Amayreh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mistknight@gmail.com">mistknight@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="im">> The problem we have with IE6 is a lot more than CSS compatibility. It's
poor JS performance, PNG incompatibility, etc, etc. makes it hard to
work with. I <br>> know there are patches for everything but it's extra work
and since January we started to charge more for making sites IE6
compatible.<br><br>> Seeing how charts are doing, I'm pretty confident that at the end of
the year IE6 will stop being considered on about 50% of new projects.<br><br></div>I kind of doubt that. CSS compatibility is the biggest issue and I'm hoping the reset.css will be the solution. JS performance is a new one for me, it used to be JS incompatibilities but with JQuery that's no longer an issue. PNG compatibility is again an issue, but in Drupal, with modules like pngfix it is as simple as enabling the module and identifying the img tag's wrapper's ID or CLASS.<br>
<br>I definitely despise ie6, but the points above are diminishing and I think you've quite overrated them.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Ivan Soto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivansotof@gmail.com" target="_blank">ivansotof@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">HI, (I'm new here)<br><br>The problem we have with IE6 is a lot more than CSS compatibility. It's poor JS performance, PNG incompatibility, etc, etc. makes it hard to work with. I know there are patches for everything but it's extra work and since January we started to charge more for making sites IE6 compatible.<br>
<br>Seeing how charts are doing, I'm pretty confident that at the end of the year IE6 will stop being considered on about 50% of new projects.<br><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all">Ivan Soto Fernandez<br>Web Developer<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ashraf Amayreh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mistknight@gmail.com" target="_blank">mistknight@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Hello all,<br><br>Has anyone come across reset.css files? I've only recently been acquainted with the concept, but surprisingly enough, almost all new sites we coded where we've used the reset.css have passed ie6 with no to little modifications. Read this:<br>
<br><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/" target="_blank">http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/</a><br><br>Hope it helps.<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Darrel O'Pry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darrel.opry@gmail.com" target="_blank">darrel.opry@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><p>I don't think it will be a percentage point that changes the support requirement. I think it will be a price point. I'd go about testing it by adding additional cost for each browser the project support with higher costs for deprecated or non-compliant browsers and see what the market will bear.</p>
<p></p><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div>On Jun 18, 2009 10:32 AM, "Brian Vuyk" <<a href="mailto:brian@brianvuyk.com" target="_blank">brian@brianvuyk.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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I was just looking at statistics regarding browser usage. <br>
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W3Schools shows IE6 usage at 14.5% last month:
<a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp" target="_blank">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp</a><br>
W3Counter shows IE6 at 24.84% last month:
<a href="http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php" target="_blank">http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php</a><br>
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Regardless of what the true usage is, all these statistics indicate
that it's usage is dropping, although not particularly fast.<br>
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At what percentage point do you think people will start to consider IE6
to be not worth supporting anymore? I know a lot of developers feel
that we are past that point already due to how obsolete IE6 is.
However, most clients I've dealt with insist that Safari be supported
with ~5% of the market share, and IE6 even more so.<br>
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Thoughts?<br><font color="#888888">
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