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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">I am too. My first
question is why a company wouldn't rather use J---- or some other
solution than Drupal, if it comes with a union contract?<br>
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Victor Kane wrote:<br>
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<div>So that would be a new thread (representing the interests of
those working, but also giving useful info to clients...), if people
are interested in discussing that I am.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Alex
Urevick-Ackelsberg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Alex@zivtech.com">Alex@zivtech.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm
not conflating anything, and if you look back at the thread you'll see
that I'm not advocating (at least not strongly) for a certification
program. I think what we need is a "guild" (or "guilds") or union of
sorts, that can define what it means to be a "Master" at Drupal
development (a la 'Master Plubmer') and provide the framework for
becoming one.
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<div class="h5">On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Fitzgerald
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bill@funnymonkey.com"
target="_blank">bill@funnymonkey.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> RE:<br>
><br>
> > And I don't know which marketplace you've been<br>
> > talking to, but the ones I talk to think there needs<br>
> > to be a better way to show that a firm/individual<br>
> > is a Professional Drupal Developer/Development Shop.<br>
><br>
> Every person who spends a penny on anything would like a better
way of ensuring that they aren't wasting their money. To conflate this
very human tendency with the need for a Certification System misses the
point: part of our job is to help people understand exactly what they
are getting with their investment (and as I see it, a client "buys"
access to expertise, which will save them time in the short run and
increase efficiency in the long run).<br>
><br>
> In my past life (aka, before I became a Drupal geek) I spent far
too much time working around people who had excellent paper credentials
but lacked practical skills. These credentials ranged from tech
certifications to PhDs -- none of these are guarantees that the person
holding them knows *anything* about *anything*. One of the elements
about the Drupal community that is refreshing is the complete lack of
reliance on these artificial metrics.<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
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