I think it is an acceptable place for people to cross post. Most people who join I think are already consultants. So if a consultant is looking for another consultant, or even if an employer were looking for a consultant, I see no problem with that.<div>
<br></div><div>~Jerad Bitner (sirkitree)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Cameron Eagans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cweagans@gmail.com">cweagans@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">While I agree with you, the reason that I joined this list in the first place was because I thought that there would be frequent job postings. As a college student running a Drupal shop, I need all the help I can get finding new work.<br>
<br>That said, I agree with you.<br><br>Would it be too much of a hassle to split job postings off into a [Jobs] list?<br><br>If/when that happens, I would join that list, but until then, I think the consultants list is the best place for job postings at the moment.<br clear="all">
-----<br><font color="#888888">Cameron Eagans<br>Owner, Black Storms Studios, LLC<br><a href="http://www.blackstormsstudios.com" target="_blank">http://www.blackstormsstudios.com</a></font><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Ryan Cross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drupal@ryancross.com" target="_blank">drupal@ryancross.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
This is not directed at anyone in particular (i.e. Sam) but I'm<br>
curious how other people feel about job postings on this mailing list.<br>
I personally would expect this list to be used for discussions between<br>
consultants/shops and mostly around issues facing us that do not<br>
necessarily get addressed by other outlets (i.e. not technical or<br>
development questions, theming functions, etc). I would generally<br>
expect discussions around business topics such as Sam's recent<br>
discussion about a skills inventory used in hiring people.<br>
<br>
It seems very obvious when people not familiar with this list (usually<br>
newbies) end up posting job offers or projects to this list without<br>
this concept. While I am sure people on this list might be interested<br>
in more work (obviously they are in the business for it), I personally<br>
do not like seeing them here. I guess I would like to imagine that<br>
this can be a bit of a sanctuary for discussion about clients/business<br>
without feeling like we have to always be worried about looking bad in<br>
front of potential clients. (you probably don't want clients knowing<br>
you're unsure of how to estimate a job or that your contracts might<br>
have holes in it, etc). I am quite conscious of this being a public<br>
forum and have no delusions people can find out this stuff, but I<br>
don't want potential clients to have more of a reason to come here and<br>
I would support any actions that would discourage this like job posts<br>
to this list. The converse of this would be if people started posting<br>
to this list advertising their skills/services, which I think would<br>
also be inappropriate.<br>
<br>
How does everyone else feel?<br>
<br>
There may be some grey areas, such as consultants looking for<br>
specialists in other areas. Like a themer looking for a developer, or<br>
a developer looking for a hoster. So, if you do want to support job<br>
posts, what is acceptable?<br>
<br>
This may also lead into a more detailed discussion of general<br>
guidelines for this list I guess, but I think this is a specific issue<br>
that should have a clear answer.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ryan<br>
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