All good points. The crowd seems to be in favor of training, so I'm glad I posted. I'd like to defend myself a bit though!<br><br>I really enjoy helping out on the d.o forums, IRC, presenting at and attending camps, attending conferences, evangelizing, etc. I think I have a pretty good track record on the forums and IRC. I've contributed a bit of code, bug fixes, etc. I've given dozens of people their first sip of "Drupal cool aid". I'm all about giving back to the community when I can.<br>
<br>The heart of this issue for me is... The first place I point clients and friends is the Drupal community. This is where I learned my trade. I've pointed said friend at <a href="http://drupal.org">drupal.org</a>, IRC, g.d.o, etc, and friend does not jump on board with the community aspect. I don't feel that I can deliver a very effective "brain dump" in this context... This is not how I learned, and this is not the type of work I want to build my business on.<br>
<br> Chris.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jerad Bitner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sirkitree@gmail.com">sirkitree@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
While I can understand your want of job security, if everybody in the<br>
Drupal community took that stance, we would not have the awesome<br>
community we have today.<br>
<br>
The community takes more of a "Teach a man to fish..." approach,<br>
rather than, "A plumber wouldn't teach you how to fix the pipes."<br>
<br>
In this way, we all become knowledgeable and are able to build on each<br>
other's knowledge. This is a basic difference in 'Open source mindset'<br>
vs. 'proprietary'. You said you use Drupal and so are benefitting<br>
directly form this, so please don't take the opposite approach.<br>
<br>
I'm not saying you should teach him if you don't have the interest or<br>
time, but make that your reason rather then you don't think you<br>
_should_ teach him. Teaching is a great way to put yourself in the<br>
'expert' chair to those you're teaching as well, and this can gain you<br>
more respect and clients than trying to keep it all to yourself.<br>
<br>
I guess I'm encouraging you to teach your friend, and if he really is<br>
your friend, I don't think you would actually mind doing so. If you're<br>
just looking to make a buck off of him, well you might want to<br>
redefine your relationship a bit. That sounds more like a client<br>
relationship, than friend. Though the two are not inseparable.<br>
<br>
Hope that made sense...<br>
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Chris Miller<br>
<<a href="mailto:chris@trailheadinteractive.com">chris@trailheadinteractive.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello all,<br>
><br>
> I have a friend employed by an established and profitable client of 3 years,<br>
> that is asking for independent training and instruction on Drupal<br>
> development. This friend has a few basic technical skills, and dabbles in<br>
> side projects. We're using Drupal for several projects at said friend's<br>
> job. I've heard the analogy that "A plumber wouldn't teach you how to fix<br>
> the pipes", and I'm looking for a nice way to say that to my friend. Has<br>
> anyone else had to deal with this situation? How did it turn out?<br>
><br>
> Honestly I have no interest in training anyone to independently do the work<br>
> that puts food on my table. I've thought about just charging 3x my normal<br>
> rate and milking it. Is that wrong?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris Miller<br>
> Trailhead Interactive<br>
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