<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Lee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:georgeleejr617@gmail.com">georgeleejr617@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Whatever is reliable, which I would guess is the latter -- but hoping<br>
there's a good way to find paid folks less intense than full-out<br>
full-price web developers, since it's just about maintaining web<br>
sites.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, here's the source of the confusion in the argument that Sam Cohen attempted to make clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Speaking as a professional Drupal consultant, I maintain without charging absolutely anything, about ten Drupal sites, a couple of them not so trivial.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Because I am committed to their causes.</div><div><br></div><div>However, funded non-profits need to find qualified Drupal professionals who are known in the Drupal community. By simply checking out the participation they have in the community either locally, through <a href="http://groups.drupal.org">groups.drupal.org</a>, or on <a href="http://drupal.org">drupal.org</a>.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There is no intermediate ground, "it's just about maintaining web sites", this is tantamount to asking an electrician to come in and fix a few outlets "it's just about doing a little wiring". Because people work for a living.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I see you sign saying "Peace, community, justice".</div><div><br></div><div>Well, George, I trust that your antiwar flyers have a Union label on them? </div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately we Drupal professionals still don't have a union. But we do work for a living. And funded non-profits would want to respect working people, first of all, I would imagine.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Victor Kane</div><div><a href="http://awebfactory.com.ar">http://awebfactory.com.ar</a></div><div><a href="http://projectflowandtracker.com">http://projectflowandtracker.com</a></div><div><br></div><div>
"Let the capitalists pay for the crisis, not the working class"</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Sam Cohen <<a href="mailto:sam@samcohen.com">sam@samcohen.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> George,<br>
><br>
> Are you asking how these nonprofits can find volunteers or how they can find<br>
> paid contractors?<br>
><br>
> Sam<br>
><br>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM, George Lee <<a href="mailto:georgeleejr617@gmail.com">georgeleejr617@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> Scenario: Imagine a small non-profit working to keep its web site<br>
>> updated - HTML generated by Dreamweaver, not Drupal, not too many<br>
>> pages. Like a lot of groups I know they struggle with keeping it<br>
>> updated. A couple options:<br>
>><br>
>> (1) Someone updates the pages about once a month<br>
>> (2) Move to a system like Wordpress, Drupal, etc. where they can log<br>
>> in and update pages themselves; have someone else maintain the<br>
>> underlying machinery, themes, etc. when needed<br>
>><br>
>> In either case, if the group needs someone not in-house to do this --<br>
>> how do they best find someone, and how do they set it up right? For<br>
>> (1) for instance, could a group just Craiglist someone, offer a decent<br>
>> rate (I don't know what that would be), and sign a contract? For (2),<br>
>> how do they find someone?<br>
>><br>
>> Right now I see a lot of groups relying on volunteers or random<br>
>> connects, and then they struggle getting the person to actually follow<br>
>> through. I'm helping some groups fill that gap myself, but I also want<br>
>> to give them advice how they can find other people in general.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Peace, community, justice,<br>
>> - George<br>
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