<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rbf@castyour.net">rbf@castyour.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I'm actually totally sure you're lots of fun at parties, and otherwise. However, I would suggest that if we would try your union idea, we would have little to restrict to gain long term leverage when talking about open source software of zero marginal cost. The factories we would "sit in" during a strike would have to be every pc on earth, and the alternative means of production are available on <a href="http://wordpress.com" target="_blank">wordpress.com</a> for free.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK, internationalist means reaching out even to wordpress and joomla land :) The same forces are at work.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Instead, focusing on driving down the cost of international communication between workers by making more drupal websites and teaching the masses to the same would be a nicer strategy for laying the groundwork for international organizing around really resource restricted goods like food, water, housing and healthcare. In the long path towards this goal there will be many technologies to master and make a living developing along the way.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>The resource restricted service we need to organize around is wages, because wages are the only way a corporation can earn a profit, and the only way we can earn a living. The real battle going on right now around which all the other valid ones must revolve, is the attack upon working people's wages and benefits, as seen in the European "adjustments" (Greece, France, and the US also (teacher layoffs and strikes))... that is the battle ground, but it is very meaningful because it is a battle which can only be won by the union struggle being independent of the state and the bosses, if we are able to win back the unions from the upper crust sellout bureaucracy they install there; and if the struggle inserts itself into a political one aiming to refound society upon new social foundations to overcome the limitations of capitalism. If we struggle to preserve water rights or against the crimes against humanity of offshore drilling, but voluntarily confine our struggle to within an acceptance of capitalism, then we are doomed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cool debate, Ryan,</div><div><br></div><div>Victor</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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In Solidarity,<br>
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Ryan<br>
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"Victor Kane" <<a href="mailto:victorkane@gmail.com">victorkane@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>We can all laugh our heads off, but the law of falling rate of return (Marx)<br>
>and the huge efforts being made (even in the Drupal community via the<br>
>sanctification of oDesk) to commoditize Drupal consulting work will make us<br>
>consultants laugh on the other side of our faces.<br>
><br>
>Only an international union (which we should have done at the cusp of the<br>
>curve, not now that it is dropping) can defend our rights as working people.<br>
><br>
>Victor Kane<br>
><a href="http://awebfactory.com.ar" target="_blank">http://awebfactory.com.ar</a><br>
><br>
>"Let's make the capitalist corporations pay for the crisis, not working<br>
>people"<br>
><br>
>On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Riche Zamor Jr <<a href="mailto:rczamor@gmail.com">rczamor@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> What country is the bid from? It doesn't read as though English is the<br>
>> writer's first language...<br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 6, 2010 4:32 PM, "Andrew R. Kelly" <<a href="mailto:arkelly@cognisync.com">arkelly@cognisync.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > That HAS to be a typo, nobody's that clueless.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a> [mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a>]<br>
>> > On Behalf Of Jeff Greenberg<br>
>> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:58 PM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a><br>
>> > Subject: [consulting] A chuckle<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">>> > Received this request for a bid today. Still chuckling.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > You have been invited by the employer to participate in a private<br>
>> auction.<br>
>> > We would like to have an informational portal for all of the roles in our<br>
>> > company. The site will be made with the Drupal CMS and therefore we<br>
>> require<br>
>> > an EXPERT drupal developer. Please don't bid if youre only building<br>
>> drupal<br>
>> > websites as your hobby. You should be well familiar with content types<br>
>> and<br>
>> > views, users integration in Drupal, advanced search and permission<br>
>> > functions, multilingual sites (including rtl languages)...We can say that<br>
>> we<br>
>> > are very strict with timelines and very clear with requirements so please<br>
>> > give us the right estimation from the beginning...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Max Bid:$300<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
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