I'm not following why people are sending clients to this list. <br><br>It's for professional Drupal consultants, not for people who want to hire Drupal consultants or ask consultants questions -- no?<br><br>Sam<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Davison <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevin@quevin.com">kevin@quevin.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Andrew, I think this is the right idea. Trolls need to be moderated, especially when the topic is not what we agree to discuss.<br>
<br>
Weeks ago, I referred a prospect looking for help to this list, and I recently saw them asking how to be removed. They were expecting to join a list to get consulting help, not to get flamed with political rantings. This list has lost a potential client looking for services, so consider that.<br>
<br>
You are losing business. Plus, I'm removing myself from this list now. I will no longer be seeking paid help from this list. At least not until I hear that the list is moderated so it becomes useful again.<br>
<br>
Goodbye<br>
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On Aug 23, 2010, at 08:03 AM, Andrew R. Kelly wrote:<br>
<br>
> This is a rock-solid response. Therefore I fully expect a rebuttal :(. We<br>
> (meaning my small band of drupaleers) enjoy this list and in fact promote it<br>
> as a feature of Drupal in our value points to clients as we battle<br>
> commercial software packages. If a prospect decides to look under the hood<br>
> and stumbles onto threads like we've had recently that won't be pretty.<br>
><br>
> C'mon folks let's keep our eyes on the target - building Drupal market share<br>
> one gig at a time, using the power of community to combat commercial<br>
> solutions.<br>
><br>
> Thx Adam.<br>
><br>
> Andrew<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Adam Mordecai<br>
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:22 AM<br>
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:sami.khan@etopian.com">sami.khan@etopian.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Suggestion for Dries and Moderators: New Politics<br>
> List<br>
><br>
> Yea, hilariously, last night I wrote an extremely rude email in response to<br>
> Sami's really rude email, and it got moderated (due to size limitations) and<br>
> I've cancelled it this morning because it didn't further the conversation,<br>
> just made me feel better.<br>
><br>
> Alex I've joined your group and will gladly track down people who might want<br>
> or be able to support it. These kinds of emails suggesting resources and<br>
> tangible things you can do are exactly the kind of thing that DO add to the<br>
> conversation.<br>
><br>
> Again what I meant to say by moderation wasn't that every post has to be<br>
> approved, just that when the discussion gets way out in the weeds a<br>
> moderator can chime in with best practices and resources and ask people to<br>
> move it off list. Then if someone continues to disregard that, they could be<br>
> put on probation or booted if they can't play well with others. Sami posted<br>
> 48 different emails this month to the list (18% of total list traffic) only<br>
> around 8 of which actually were not related to the original political thread<br>
> and about consulting. I just think a little common sense and respect for<br>
> other people's time would make things work better around here.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Alex Rollin wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Adam,<br>
><br>
> I'd like to add in that I was inspired by the conversation to go do<br>
> documentation about how Drupal Workers could form a cooperative.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative</a><br>
><br>
> We've had a number of folks join the group and I hope you will, too.<br>
><br>
> I don't think that prohibiting all "organizing related" traffic is your<br>
> intention with moderation.<br>
><br>
> It's still permitted to link link link(?):<br>
> <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative</a><br>
><br>
> Linking this within the list is appropriate, no? To post links about<br>
> discussions on GDO that we see as relevant but tangential, yes?<br>
><br>
> Perhaps, then, if this is okay, then what we have here is a bit of<br>
> etiquette. You can use the list to link to tangential and relevant things<br>
> on GDO?<br>
><br>
> Then it is up to everyone else to hold back the impulse to jump in and make<br>
> the thread grow. Instead, head over to the link? Can we self-moderate<br>
> around something like this?<br>
><br>
> Alex<br>
><br>
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