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<DIV>It's tricky for some non-profits, particularly when an effort is funded through foundation grants with budget parameters and line item flexibility, but we have tech saavy people in our shop, and substantial research on cloud applications, and there will be less of a client curve or blank stare. I had the pleasure of attending Drupal Con, and am working my way through Lullabot's videos, which should help. I anticipate that the most important consultation area will be in the alignment of modules to objectives and the database constructs</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV></DIV>.<BR>>>> Victor Kane <victorkane@gmail.com> 11/11/2010 3:45 PM >>><BR>Both Joel and Christopher were dialoging and what's more, they were right. And what's more, they were helpful, on both sides. Went from 12 to 18 in ten minutes. And with the acknowledgement that custom dev would be more, and with the acknowledgement that it depends also on the real requirements (word conversion? yes? no?).</DIV>
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<DIV>I've been tiredly explaining to people all week why fixed rate "budgets" are a waste of time for everyone, this really brought it home.</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Matt Chapman <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:matt@ninjitsuweb.com">matt@ninjitsuweb.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I didn't perceive or intend any "skewering." Seemed to me it was<BR>consultants offering friendly advice about how to make an RFP more<BR>attractive to developers. I'm going to guess the client who prefer<BR>/high-quality skills/ in their service provider over mere /ambition/.<BR><BR>Even "ambitious developers" can get things done cheap, but rarely fast<BR>or good. Heck, that describes my first year of Durpal consulting. I<BR>gave a lot of people some great deals, but if I could do far better<BR>work in half the time rebuilding those same sites today. But then and<BR>now, I wouldn't commit to a fixed timeline that short.<BR><BR>All the Best,<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>Matt<BR></FONT>
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Sean Effel <<A href="mailto:admin@drupaltherapy.com">admin@drupaltherapy.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> This list is a good way to connect clients and developers, but skewering<BR>> RFP authors will weaken this venue for all of us.<BR>><BR>> What's more, I believe it's unprofessional to scrutinize potential<BR>> projects in a public forum. If one has doubts about the feasibility of<BR>> an RFP then the choices are to either take it up with the author<BR>> privately or let the opportunity pass on to a more ambitious developer.<BR>><BR>> Sean Effel<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> <A href="http://www.drupaltherapy.com" target=_blank>http://www.drupaltherapy.com</A><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> consulting mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</A><BR>> <A href="http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting" target=_blank>http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting</A><BR>><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>consulting mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting" target=_blank>http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting</A><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>