<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I think this sums it up quite nice.<br><br>http://www.slideshare.net/Advomatic/put-the-rfp-down<br><br>I was considering this one RFP that had hard deadlines. And decided to blow it off,. The time line came and went, then I got an email saying they extended it. Of course they did, there estimates suck and so do ours.<br><br>The fact this budget went from 12k-18k proves they don't have a fixed budget. Funny thing is we ALWAYS ask people what their budget is. But that is more to gain an appreication of what size venue they want to play in.<br><br>I am just reminded of this video<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY<br><br><br>----- "Victor Kane" <victorkane@gmail.com> wrote:
<br>> Both Joel and Christopher were dialoging and what's more, they were right. And what's more, they were helpful, on both sides. Went from 12 to 18 in ten minutes. And with the acknowledgement that custom dev would be more, and with the acknowledgement that it depends also on the real requirements (word conversion? yes? no?).<div>
<br>> </div><div>Now that's a consultants forum!</div><div><br>> </div><div>I've been tiredly explaining to people all week why fixed rate "budgets" are a waste of time for everyone, this really brought it home.</div>
<div><br>> </div><div>Victor Kane</div><div><a href="http://awebfactory.com.ar" target="_blank">http://awebfactory.com.ar</a><br>> <br>> <div class="gmail_quote">> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Matt Chapman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt@ninjitsuweb.com" target="_blank">matt@ninjitsuweb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I didn't perceive or intend any "skewering." Seemed to me it was<br>>
consultants offering friendly advice about how to make an RFP more<br>>
attractive to developers. I'm going to guess the client who prefer<br>>
/high-quality skills/ in their service provider over mere /ambition/.<br>>
<br>>
Even "ambitious developers" can get things done cheap, but rarely fast<br>>
or good. Heck, that describes my first year of Durpal consulting. I<br>>
gave a lot of people some great deals, but if I could do far better<br>>
work in half the time rebuilding those same sites today. But then and<br>>
now, I wouldn't commit to a fixed timeline that short.<br>>
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All the Best,<br>>
<font color="#888888"><br>>
Matt<br>>
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Sean Effel <<a href="mailto:admin@drupaltherapy.com" target="_blank">admin@drupaltherapy.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
> This list is a good way to connect clients and developers, but skewering<br>>
> RFP authors will weaken this venue for all of us.<br>>
><br>>
> What's more, I believe it's unprofessional to scrutinize potential<br>>
> projects in a public forum. If one has doubts about the feasibility of<br>>
> an RFP then the choices are to either take it up with the author<br>>
> privately or let the opportunity pass on to a more ambitious developer.<br>>
><br>>
> Sean Effel<br>>
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