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<br></div><div><a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/consulting/2010-November/005112.html"></a>Victor<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Kelly Bell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelly@gothamcitydrupal.com">kelly@gothamcitydrupal.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I missed the previous conversations between Victor and Ken, et al, and am wondering if there is an online archive I can read of the transcript from this thread? I am very interested in the discussion around "no-fixed-budget", as I have been fighting this fight for a very long time - it just always comes to no good end for someone. Anyway, I would very much like to read what has transpired.<br>
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> True, Victor, true. And what's more, Ken has expanded the geographical scope of his search to include people outside of the D.C. area, yeah? More budget means more capable eyes. Less limits on who lives where also means more capable eyes.<br>
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> I'm really glad I decided to respond to this thread. I weighed the possible outcomes, one of which might have been me flame-toasing a Seeker. But, seeing as I've gotten my point across without looking like an ass (this time), my best hope for this RFP would be that Ken finds some more calendar time for the project and that whomever takes it on will not be a budding-yet-eager Drupal dev who gets 80% of the way there yet runs out of money or time. Or both.<br>
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> Ken, best of luck to you, sir. You seem to have a really interesting website to build!<br>
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> On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Victor Kane wrote:<br>
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>> Both Joel and Christopher were dialoging and what's more, they were right. And what's more, they were helpful, on both sides. Went from 12 to 18 in ten minutes. And with the acknowledgement that custom dev would be more, and with the acknowledgement that it depends also on the real requirements (word conversion? yes? no?).<br>
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>> I've been tiredly explaining to people all week why fixed rate "budgets" are a waste of time for everyone, this really brought it home.<br>
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