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wouldn't have a link to that revelation, would you? Ten years ago, IBM
was billing me at $300 per hour and paying me less than $40. So re-billing rates may not mean much.<br>
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<div><span>Please don't confuse "outsource" with "offshore." Like me, many of us on this list are freelancers - that is, outsourcing material. "Offshore" refers to acquiring</span> resources from outside one's home country. For example,
if a US based company hires someone from the US, they are outsourcing.
If they hire someone from Viet Nam, they are outsourcing from offshore
(commonly shortened to "offshoring"). Likewise, I have heard of Indian
companies hiring project managers (or customer liaisons) in the US; that
would be offshore to them, and those project managers would be
double-offshore to the original client.</div>
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<div><font color="#ff007f" size="4" face="bookman old style, new york, times, serif"><i><strong>Nancy</strong></i></font></div><div> </div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.</font></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Fred Jones <fredthejonester@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers <consulting@drupal.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:08 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> [consulting] Consultant Community<br></font><br>First, as I was one of the persons who posted inappropriate remarks<br>recently, allow me to apologize both to the parties involved, and to<br>the entire list. I'm sorry.<br><br>Second, in response to a comment made:<br><br>> this is not in the sprit of the community that I have been involved in for the last 10 years.<br><br>I thought to raise the subject of the nature of this community.<br>Clearly it's not the same as it was 10 years ago. Back then there were<br>well under 3K users on d.o. Even 5 years ago there were less than 80K<br>users. Today there are close to 1.5 million users. These numbers I<br>obtained just by playing with the user id on d.o. I even graphed it:<br><br><a href="http://imageshack.us/f/585/20110823145904.png/" target="_blank">http://imageshack.us/f/585/20110823145904.png/</a><br><br>I'm not here for 10 years, not even 5 really--I'm been hanging out
for<br>3 or 4 maybe, so I don't know the history as others do, but aside from<br>the exponential growth of the overall community, the developers<br>community has also grown in numbers and in diversity. It was revealed<br>at a Drupalcon last year (or two years ago) that there are dev shops<br>charging up to $300 an hour. Now it has been revealed that there are<br>also resources offering their services for $2 an hour.<br><br>I am not intending to make any negative inferences towards outsourcers<br>(there are American teenagers also working on eLance for a few dollars<br>an hour, heh heh), but I am trying to get a feel for what people think<br>about the growth of the community and how much cohesiveness there is.<br>Or could be.<br><br>I think this is quite relevant to this list and I hope at the least it<br>provides food for thought.<br><br>Fred<br>_______________________________________________<br>consulting mailing list<br><a
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