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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wish purchasing agents at my clients had the same respect for contract law as Alex </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’d be nice if this thread stayed in the legal arena and didn’t get personal, that lasted about 10 minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> consulting-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [consulting] Failed Outsourcing Job<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Fred-<o:p></o:p></p><p>Aren't you a consultant? Isn't this a consulting mailing list?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Even your response is shameless and shameful. I'm sure your clients have contemplated how to not compensate you before...<o:p></o:p></p><p>Just pay the person and move on, <o:p></o:p></p><p>--<br>Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br>Partner | CEO<br>Zivtech, LLC<br><a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com">alex@zivtech.com</a><br>office: (215) 922-2692<br>cell: (215) 866-8956<br>twitter: AlexU_A<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 28, 2013 8:57 AM, "Fred Jones" <<a href="mailto:fredthejonester@gmail.com">fredthejonester@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Nick Vidal <<a href="mailto:nick@iss.im">nick@iss.im</a>> wrote:<br>> The answer is obvious: either pay him to use his work, or don't use it at<br>> all. It would be unfair to do otherwise.<br><br>No offense, but who said life is fair?<br><br>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ryan Cross <<a href="mailto:drupal@ryancross.com">drupal@ryancross.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I'm sure its tempting to use the work and you probably feel like his failure<br>> to deliver has cost you time<br><br>Yes, that is precisely it. I wasn't sure why I felt like I do sort of<br>deserve something. Now I understand why I don't feel I must be "fair"<br>in this situation. In reality, both of you are correct.<br><br>Now that I understand better, I can tell him that he has cost us time,<br>which is money, and has frustrated my client, and so I will see what I<br>work out with him.<br><br>Ryan, thank you for this angle--that's what I needed.<br><br>Fred<br>_______________________________________________<br>consulting mailing list<br><a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org">consulting@drupal.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/consulting</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>