<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Slavery was outlawed soon after the Civil War. You should not attempt to re-engineer that horrible institution on FreeLancer.com. <br><br></div>Bad karma will get you if you steal that poor boy's work. <br>
<br></div>As for the poor client experience (your client), it's your fault. You went cheap and hired the wrong talent. That's your fault.<br><br></div>Joe<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Andrew R. Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arkelly@cognisync.com" target="_blank">arkelly@cognisync.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I wish purchasing agents at my clients had the same respect for contract law as Alex </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It’d be nice if this thread stayed in the legal arena and didn’t get personal, that lasted about 10 minutes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:consulting-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">consulting-bounces@drupal.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:01 AM</span></p><div class="im"><br><b>To:</b> A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers<br></div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [consulting] Failed Outsourcing Job<u></u><u></u><p>
</p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Fred-<u></u><u></u></p><p>Aren't you a consultant? Isn't this a consulting mailing list?<u></u><u></u></p><p>Even your response is shameless and shameful. I'm sure your clients have contemplated how to not compensate you before...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Just pay the person and move on, <u></u><u></u></p><p>--<br>Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg<br>Partner | CEO<br>Zivtech, LLC<br><a href="mailto:alex@zivtech.com" target="_blank">alex@zivtech.com</a><br>office: <a href="tel:%28215%29%20922-2692" value="+12159222692" target="_blank">(215) 922-2692</a><br>
cell: <a href="tel:%28215%29%20866-8956" value="+12158668956" target="_blank">(215) 866-8956</a><br>twitter: AlexU_A<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 28, 2013 8:57 AM, "Fred Jones" <<a href="mailto:fredthejonester@gmail.com" target="_blank">fredthejonester@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Nick Vidal <<a href="mailto:nick@iss.im" target="_blank">nick@iss.im</a>> wrote:<br>> The answer is obvious: either pay him to use his work, or don't use it at<br>
> all. It would be unfair to do otherwise.<br><br>No offense, but who said life is fair?<br><br>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ryan Cross <<a href="mailto:drupal@ryancross.com" target="_blank">drupal@ryancross.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'm sure its tempting to use the work and you probably feel like his failure<br>> to deliver has cost you time<br><br>Yes, that is precisely it. I wasn't sure why I felt like I do sort of<br>deserve something. Now I understand why I don't feel I must be "fair"<br>
in this situation. In reality, both of you are correct.<br><br>Now that I understand better, I can tell him that he has cost us time,<br>which is money, and has frustrated my client, and so I will see what I<br>work out with him.<br>
<br>Ryan, thank you for this angle--that's what I needed.<br><br>Fred<br>_______________________________________________<br>consulting mailing list<br><a href="mailto:consulting@drupal.org" target="_blank">consulting@drupal.org</a><br>
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