<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kieran Lal</b> <<a href="mailto:kieran@civicspacelabs.org">kieran@civicspacelabs.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=""><br><div><span class="q"><div>On Oct 15, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Trae McCombs wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Kieran, Sorry if this is OT, but I think it sorta makes sense to say this on this thread. <br><br>
I think the #1 problem Drupal faces is this:<br><br>Difficulty to upgrade.</blockquote></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Sorry, the rest looks good, feel free to let me know if there is any way I can help in testing this. As I agree it's our #1 problem and want to help out where I can.
<br><br>Peace love and bananas!<br>Trae <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><div>Yes, it is off-topic. Yes, you are right. Upgrading was listed as the hardest task in the Drupal administration survey, as of right now. Survey results are subject to change.
</div><span class="q"><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but... I think there should be a button, or something in the admin section that says goes something like the following: <br><br>Upgrade - Configure when your Drupal software is upgraded
<br><br>1. Status<br>Upgrade is pending - Somewhere something should say: Upgrade pending!<br>No Upgrades present - Same place it should say: No Upgrades Needed. <br>(wording is off, but you get the idea)<br>other?</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>2. When are your upgrades to be run?<br>[Nightly]<br>[Monthy]<br>[Only when security releases are available - does this poll <a href="http://drupal.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
drupal.org </a>? heh]<br>[Never]<br><br>3. Level of upgrades [Email UID 1 (or whoever is specified) when something is done or available ]<br>Simple Notification<br>Download update but don't install<br>Install upgrade but perform only when UID1 logs in and approves
<br>Automagic upgade with no user intervention needed. <br><br>Heh, Ok, I know I'm probably smoking crack here, and none of this is possible, BUT, from a "newbie" Drupal Administrator, this would be a MAJOR plus on helping keep things maintained. I'd personally select the Automagic upgrades. That way I wouldn't have to worry about things.
<br><br>There is a LOT more thinking that has to go into something like this, and I know it's probably a 6.0 feature, but... it would really make managing a Drupal site a complete and utter breeze. <br></blockquote><div>
<br></div></span><div>Most of the basics to solve this are being done by Derek right now. The basic assumption is that we need a release mechanism for contributed modules in order to do official releases that need to be pushed out to sites.
</div><div><br></div><div>However, I do think there are even harder parts of upgrading that we should explore like API changes, and teaching effective upgrading procedures to administrators.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,
</div><span class="sg"><div>Kieran</div></span><span class="q"><br><blockquote type="cite"><br>Trae<br><br><div> <span class="gmail_quote">On 10/14/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kieran Lal</b> <<a href="mailto:kieran@civicspacelabs.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
kieran@civicspacelabs.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello, there are hundreds, possibly thousands of available patches in
<br>the queue for head.<br><br>If there are patches available that address managing large lists of<br>items (users, nodes, comments, groups, blocks, menus) then please <br>help identify them.<br>Also, if there are patches that help in the discovery of Drupal
<br>settings for administrators please help to identify those patches as<br>well.<br><br>These are not requests for new features to be added to Drupal 5.0.<br>It is a request to help identify proposed solutions to user<br>
experience problems that have been identified in the Drupal<br>administration survey. We would like to include these proposed<br>solutions as part of the user experience survey report. <br><br>Cheers,<br>Kieran<br><br><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br> Trae McCombs || <a href="http://occy.net/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://occy.net/</a><br> Founder - <a href="http://Themes.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br> Trae McCombs || <a href="http://occy.net/">http://occy.net/</a><br> Founder - <a href="http://Themes.org">Themes.org</a> // <a href="http://Linux.com">Linux.com</a>