On Jan 3, 2008 3:28 AM, Nick Lewis <<a href="mailto:nicklewisatx@gmail.com">nicklewisatx@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Users don't care how the profiles fit into our system. Users care about what the gizmo does (or what they dream its going to do...). Photoshop doesn't sell its software as a "photoshop installation". Its just photoshop.... Its not a binary-distro (or whatever the equivalent...).
<br><br>So maybe we should venture in to more generic, open waters: *web application*. <br><br>A multi-user moderated blog is a web application. A community calender, mailing list, and forum is a web application. Most people will understand the name to mean (I install this, and its ready to go). The web applications at
<a href="http://drupal.org" target="_blank">drupal.org</a> happen to built off of drupal.. but their target audience could give a rats ass. To them its just a web application. "Click here to browse our library of web applications".... just seems right...
<br></blockquote><div><br>Actually how about just "application"? So they are all "Drupal applications".<br>This goes well with Drupal being a web application framework, and not just a CMS or CMF.<br><br>
While this is appealing, it is a bit of an overstretch though: a distro/package/install profile is a collection of modules and some custom code to set it up.<br><br>Worth considering though.<br><br>[digress=on]<br>Drupal being an web application framework has been discussed many times, see here:
<br><a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/7704">http://groups.drupal.org/node/7704</a><br><a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/7634">http://groups.drupal.org/node/7634</a><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Then again, I've been known to go mad every now and again.<br></blockquote><div><br>Not today.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Cheers,<br>Nick Lewis<br>------------------------------<div>-------<br><br>Blog: <a href="http://www.nicklewis.org/" target="_blank">
http://www.nicklewis.org</a><br>Work: <a href="http://www.onnetworks.com/" target="_blank">http://www.onnetworks.com</a><br><div><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 2, 2008 11:23 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <
<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>On Jan 2, 2008 11:06 PM, David Metzler <
<a href="mailto:metzlerd@metzlerd.com" target="_blank">metzlerd@metzlerd.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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For the record, yeah I knew that's what distros meant, and it was that suggestion that got me thinking we needed to start a brainstorming session. I frankly would be happy with distros. <div><br></div><div>Sorry if it came off like I was stealing ideas.
</div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Nah. Not what I meant. <br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><br></div><div>Not sure I agree that compound words should be avoided...If they add clarity.... </div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>This is where we disagree. See Earnie Boyd's suggestions earlier in this thread
<br>and the replies to them. I don't agree with Earnie here, and agree with the counter<br>arguments.<br><br>e.g. "Install profile" and "user profile". Too much overloading of terms with qualifiers.
<br><br>KISS.<br><br></div><div><div></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><br></div><div>Dave
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<div><div><div>On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 2, 2008 10:25 PM, David Metzler <<a href="mailto:metzlerd@metzlerd.com" target="_blank">metzlerd@metzlerd.com
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> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on
<br>better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have<br>been made already)-<br><br>Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit <br>but also implies the software as<br></blockquote>
<div><br>That is actually what distros is. Distro is the short name for that.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Configuration bundles<br><br>Installation Suites<br><br>Configuration wizards<br><br>Install Kits<br></blockquote><div><br>Let us avoid compounded names formed of many words. They are not intuitive.<br><br>Here are others:
<br><br>Packages<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>????<br><br>Not attached to any of these but trying to start some solutions
<br>brainstorming.... ;)<br><br>Dave<br><div><div></div><div><br><br>On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:<br><br>><br>> On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd (<a href="mailto:earnie@users.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">
earnie@users.sourceforge.net</a>)<br>> wrote:<br>>> I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the point of<br>>> this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In<br>>> order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed
<br>>> to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many<br>>> connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.<br>><br>> I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any
<br>> since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not<br>> renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long<br>> enough of a name as it is. :P<br>><br>> Michelle<br>
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<br><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br><a href="http://2bits.com" target="_blank">2bits.com</a>, Inc.<br><a href="http://2bits.com" target="_blank">http://2bits.com</a>
<br>Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div></div><div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Khalid M. Baheyeldin
<br><a href="http://2bits.com" target="_blank">2bits.com
</a>, Inc.<br><a href="http://2bits.com" target="_blank">http://2bits.com</a><br>Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br><a href="http://2bits.com">2bits.com</a>, Inc.<br><a href="http://2bits.com">http://2bits.com</a><br>Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.