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1. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much<br>
better choice? (Sam Boyer)<br>
2. EER Diagram for MySQL (Brett Stoppel)<br>
3. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much<br>
better choice? (Lyle Mantooth)<br>
4. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Angela Byron)<br>
5. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Fr?d?ric G. MARAND)<br>
6. Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight GMT<br>
(Derek Wright)<br>
7. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight<br>
GMT (Jerad Bitner)<br>
8. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight<br>
GMT (Marjorie Roswell)<br>
9. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight<br>
GMT (Kathleen Murtagh)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:46 -0500<br>
From: Sam Boyer <<a href="mailto:drupal@samboyer.org">drupal@samboyer.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X<br>
is a much better choice?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:18 -0700, Derek Wright wrote:<br>
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Adrian Simmons wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Can we have a commitment that *if* everything needing to be done<br>
> > that Angie kindly listed on <a href="http://drupal.org/node/289117" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/node/289117</a> and links<br>
> > therefrom *gets done* we *will* move?<br>
><br>
> Once upon a time, in a post someone with time and motivation could<br>
> surely find, Dries wrote something to the effect of:<br>
><br>
> "I'd be happy to switch to something other than CVS _if all the<br>
> dependencies on CVS are safely removed and addressed_".<br>
><br>
> (approximate quote from memory).<br>
><br>
> - The #1 dependency on CVS is project_release.module.<br>
> - The #2 dependency on CVS is all the CVS account creation stuff.<br>
> - The #3 dependency on CVS are the CVS commit log viewing pages,<br>
> links on project nodes, etc.<br>
> - The best way to fix all of that is VersionControl API.<br>
> - There are pages dedicated to what needs to happen to get us closer,<br>
> already linked from Angie's wonderful document.<br>
><br>
> If all that work is done, d.o is running VersionControl API with the<br>
> CVS backend, the SVN backend is demonstrated to be stable and working<br>
> on <a href="http://project.drupal.org" target="_blank">project.drupal.org</a>, we've got the packaging script ported and<br>
> working, we've got the CVS -> SVN import documented and working,<br>
> we've got all the SVN access control worked out (per project like we<br>
> have now, preventing commits to tags, etc, etc), we've got something<br>
> like <a href="http://svn.drupal.org" target="_blank">svn.drupal.org</a> setup care of the OSUOSL, and we've got a team of<br>
> documentation folks lined up to go nuts, I can pretty safely<br>
> guarantee that Dries will say "Yay, go for it!".<br>
><br>
> That still doesn't answer the question of how the choice of SVN vs.<br>
> XXX will ultimately be decided, nor if decree from Dries is good<br>
> enough for the switch. The lack of a clear process for making<br>
> decisions like this continues to haunt us. By default, a decree from<br>
> Dries (if he's willing to make it) carries the day. If not, I guess<br>
> decree from Dries on how to decide will be necessary.<br>
><br>
> Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +<br>
> versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path. The<br>
> other stuff will be pretty easy (relatively speaking) once that's<br>
> done. Hurray to Sam for volunteering to help. But I can assure you<br>
> that more resources will be needed to finish the job.<br>
<br>
Indeed there will. Help is VERY welcome :)<br>
<br>
s<br>
<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> -Derek (dww)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:41:13 -0500<br>
From: "Brett Stoppel" <<a href="mailto:brett@telosstudios.com">brett@telosstudios.com</a>><br>
Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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Hi All.<br>
<br>
I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL<br>
Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one already<br>
exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of<br>
applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask<br>
questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the<br>
column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if<br>
they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the diagram<br>
and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Brett<br>
<br>
--<br>
Brett Stoppel<br>
Telos Studios<br>
<a href="mailto:brett@telosstudios.com">brett@telosstudios.com</a> | 785-218-4493<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:23:15 -0400<br>
From: Lyle Mantooth <<a href="mailto:lyle@ubercart.org">lyle@ubercart.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X<br>
is a much better choice?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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Derek Wright wrote:<br>
> Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +<br>
> versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path.<br>
<br>
Here's something I can try to help with. I'm sure there's a lot of<br>
research I need to do to get caught up, but this is a concrete goal I<br>
can work towards.<br>
<br>
-- Lyle<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:25:42 -0400<br>
From: Angela Byron <<a href="mailto:drupal-devel@webchick.net">drupal-devel@webchick.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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Brett Stoppel wrote:<br>
> Hi All.<br>
><br>
> I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL<br>
> Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one<br>
> already exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database<br>
> side of applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to<br>
> ask questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if<br>
> the column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary<br>
> keys or if they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done<br>
> on the diagram and then upload it for you all to review and make<br>
> suggestions.<br>
<br>
If you open up the module' .install files, or use the Schema module,<br>
there is already copious documentation on every single field in D6's<br>
schema. Foreign keys are documented with a particular syntax (I think<br>
it's {node}.nid but I forget). It'd be neat if you could somehow script<br>
it somehow so this could be automatically generated from one Drupal<br>
version to another, and for contributed modules as well.<br>
<br>
-Angie, who lost 2 months of her life documenting these fields. ;)<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:43:37 +0200<br>
From: Fr?d?ric G. MARAND <<a href="mailto:fgm@osinet.fr">fgm@osinet.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a>><br>
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If you mean ERD, there are a few of them on d.o. and in CVS<br>
contrib/docs/developer<br>
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From: Brett Stoppel<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:41 PM<br>
Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi All.<br>
<br>
I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL<br>
Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one already<br>
exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of<br>
applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask<br>
questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the<br>
column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if<br>
they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the diagram<br>
and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.<br>
[...]<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:26:05 -0700<br>
From: Derek Wright <<a href="mailto:drupal@dwwright.net">drupal@dwwright.net</a>><br>
Subject: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,<br>
11pm-midnight GMT<br>
To: Development <<a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a>><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:A20FD975-F181-47BE-86CA-91DC858B09B4@dwwright.net">A20FD975-F181-47BE-86CA-91DC858B09B4@dwwright.net</a>><br>
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Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday<br>
2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we<br>
switch over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
-Derek (dww)<br>
<br>
<br>
p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new<br>
server. ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:42:00 -0400<br>
From: "Jerad Bitner" <<a href="mailto:sirkitree@gmail.com">sirkitree@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,<br>
11pm-midnight GMT<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:215a89c90808011642q2852342fsa24084415fa9dcc7@mail.gmail.com">215a89c90808011642q2852342fsa24084415fa9dcc7@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <<a href="mailto:drupal@dwwright.net">drupal@dwwright.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday<br>
> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch<br>
> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> -Derek (dww)<br>
><br>
><br>
> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server. ;)<br>
> Thanks, OSUOSL.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:16:43 -0400<br>
From: "Marjorie Roswell" <<a href="mailto:mroswell@gmail.com">mroswell@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,<br>
11pm-midnight GMT<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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There are certainly all kinds of humor ..... Oy.<br>
<br>
Here's a little acronym-laden poem, an evening break....<br>
<br>
Use SVN...<br>
No, CVS!<br>
It's PM now in East US<br>
(I wonder when is GMT?<br>
or how far off from PDT?<br>
The OSUOSL<br>
Is probably the one to tell.<br>
<br>
TTFN,<br>
<br>
Margie (mroswell)<br>
<br>
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On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <<a href="mailto:sirkitree@gmail.com">sirkitree@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <<a href="mailto:drupal@dwwright.net">drupal@dwwright.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday<br>
>> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch<br>
>> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -Derek (dww)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.<br>
>> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:43:00 -0400<br>
From: "Kathleen Murtagh" <<a href="mailto:kathleen@ceardach.com">kathleen@ceardach.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,<br>
11pm-midnight GMT<br>
To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org">development@drupal.org</a><br>
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My heart did skip a beat, certainly.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <<a href="mailto:sirkitree@gmail.com">sirkitree@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <<a href="mailto:drupal@dwwright.net">drupal@dwwright.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday<br>
>> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch<br>
>> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -Derek (dww)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.<br>
>> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.<br>
<br>
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