<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well, on the bright side, the new link structure of<div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">* View open issues<br>* View all issues<br>* View all support request</font></div></blockquote>is, in my opinion, a great improvement, since usually don't care which kind of issue (task, bug, feature, etc.) it is that I'm looking for, so this will save me an extra click and a pageload every time i view an issue queue. Thanks :)</div><div><br></div><div>When it comes to removing the add issue link, I'm not thrilled about it, but I understand your reasoning.</div><div><br></div><div>I do, however, think that this is a desparate measure. Making it harder to submit bugs is not really what we want. We want higher quality issues, not just less of them.</div><div><br></div><div>What we need is a workflow like they have in Ubuntu:</div><div><a href="http://skitch.com/mikl/atwd/report-a-bug-about-ubuntu">http://skitch.com/mikl/atwd/report-a-bug-about-ubuntu</a></div><div><a href="http://skitch.com/mikl/atwf/report-a-bug-about-ubuntu">http://skitch.com/mikl/atwf/report-a-bug-about-ubuntu</a></div><div><br></div><div>I know the counter to that is that it would be a lot of work to implement and the Project module maintainers don't have the time, and I can sympathise with that. </div><div><br></div><div>That is another thorny issue for Drupal, that we have made our own tools for everything. I've once before tried advocating moving parts of what we do (translations) to Launchpad, and I'm not willing to stick my head in that particular hornet's nest again anytime soon.</div><div><br><div> <div><div><div><div><div><div><div>--</div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Mikkel Høgh <<a href="mailto:mikkel@hoegh.org">mikkel@hoegh.org</a>></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div><br><div><div>On 02/10/2008, at 09.10, Derek Wright wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Since I suspect there might be a backlash, and the questions [1] have already started coming in about the change, I wanted to briefly announce/summarize here.<br><br>As of around 3pm PDT on 2008-10-01, all of the links to directly submit new issues are gone from project nodes on drupal.org.<br><br><br>Duplicate issues suck a huge amount of time, and many of us maintainers spend upwards of 1/2 of our effort in our issue queues just marking things duplicate. This is a drain for maintainers, and isn't all that friendly for the end users, either. To help avoid this, we want to encourage people to view the queues and/or search for an existing issue about their topic before submitting a new one.<br><br>Now, on the project nodes, you have the following issue-related choices:<br><br>Support<br>* View open issues<br>* View all issues<br>* View all support requests<br>* Search issues<br>* Report a security issue<br><br>Development<br>* View pending patches<br>* View available tasks<br><br>Note that the "View all ..." links bring you to a page that includes closed, won't fix, duplicate, etc, to improve the visibility of those issues. The "Report a security issue" link just brings you to the security team page explaining the proper procedure for reporting suspected vulnerabilities (that's been true since #218571 [2]).<br><br>Every issue query result page still contains a "Create" link to submit an issue for that particular project. So, worst case, this introduces a single additional click. Furthermore, maintainers still have a "Create" link in your "My projects" [3] pages.<br><br><br>For background on this change, check out this issue: "#310446: Remove issue creation links from project pages" [4].<br><br>Note, it's very easy to change these links (project.module provides a hook, and we're tweaking it via drupalorg.module, so my usual complaints about keeping things generic for the non-d.o use cases don't apply). So, if people have suggestions for improvements, please add them to #310446.<br><br>Enjoy,<br>-Derek (dww)<br><br>p.s. I could definitely see the benefit of a "Create a new issue" link that brings you to the "view open issues" page with a drupal_set_message() about "Please look for an existing issue before you create a new one" or something. If folks are in favor of that, please reopen #310446 and let's discuss there. Thanks.<br><br><br>[1] <a href="http://drupal.org/node/316097">http://drupal.org/node/316097</a><br>[2] <a href="http://drupal.org/node/218571">http://drupal.org/node/218571</a><br>[3] <a href="http://drupal.org/project/user">http://drupal.org/project/user</a><br>[4] <a href="http://drupal.org/node/310446">http://drupal.org/node/310446</a><br><br><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>