With plugin manager in core, it should not be necessary to bundle views with core. It will be a simple matter of selecting the module for installation, after which plugin manager will download the module, install and enable it for you.<br>
<br>I think the argument of 'let's put views in core because it'll make setting up sites easier' is kind of a bad one in this case. Views is neither easy nor essential for -every- site out there.<br clear="all">
-----<br>Cameron Eagans<br>Owner, Black Storms Studios, LLC<br><a href="http://www.blackstormsstudios.com">http://www.blackstormsstudios.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM, T L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tloud365@gmail.com">tloud365@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
+1 for views in core d8.<br><br>It's a pretty useful module, and I'm guessing most of us use it in the vast majority of our sites. wrt code flexibility, I think it's a fair trade off for lowering another barrier to entry for new users. It's one less blog/forum/module search a new user has to read/do in order to get/understand/use what again I'd guess most drupal sites consider standard/necessary.<br>
<br>Just my thoughts though.<br><br>Cheers,<br>tim<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Earl Dunovant <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prometheus6@gmail.com" target="_blank">prometheus6@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Views is an query builder, and there's going to be an query builder in<br>
D7...couldn't views pretty much work out to a consistent UI for that?<br>
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Naheem Zaffar<<a href="mailto:naheemzaffar@gmail.com" target="_blank">naheemzaffar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Talking as someone who has not used views extensively, has views really<br>
> changed that greatly within versions?<br>
><br>
> Going by the numbers alone, Views 1.x was for Drupal 5, Views 2.x is for<br>
> Drupal 6. Maybe I am wrong but I would assume that the changes from 2.0 to<br>
> 2.5 the current release do not impact on the underlying infrastructure all<br>
> that much?<br>
><br>
> And this is with a "freak" core lifecycle of two years which I assume will<br>
> not remain the norm.<br>
><br>
> 2009/8/10 Cameron Eagans<br>
>><br>
>> Why would you want views in core?<br>
>><br>
>> You put views in core and it is frozen. Nobody can do anything with it (as<br>
>> far as changing it: adding new features, reworking existing code, etc). As a<br>
>> contrib module, the Views maintainers can decide how they want to run the<br>
>> release process for Views, and I personally would like to keep it that way<br>
>> -- it allows for a LOT more flexibility and a much faster development<br>
>> lifecycle.<br>
>><br>
>> Plus, core is already weighing in at around 9.5 MB. Adding another 4.5 MB<br>
>> of code to maintain doesn't seem like a good idea to me.<br>
><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><font color="#888888">-- <br>Tim Loudon<br>t: 781.686.6096<br>
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