As a follow up to Margie's note, Packt asked me to write the Drupal 6 version of the book. The projected publishing date is June of this year.<br clear="all">-----<br>Cameron Eagans<br>Owner, Black Storms Studios, LLC<br>
<a href="http://www.blackstormsstudios.com">http://www.blackstormsstudios.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:59 AM, David Shaver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d.a.shaver@dashaver.com">d.a.shaver@dashaver.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Margie I just bought your book from Amazon. <br><div class="im"><br clear="all">David A. Shaver <br>D. A. Shaver Web Design<br>Web Page Design for Small Business<br><a href="http://www.dashaver.com" target="_blank">www.dashaver.com</a> <br>
PO Box 594 Galesburg,IL 61402-0594 <br>309.343.0027 <br><br>
<br><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mroswell@gmail.com" target="_blank">mroswell@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>> It would be great to some courses on views and cck<br>
<br>
</div>I wrote the Packt book on Views 1. A number of people have said it's<br>
helped them to work better with Views 2. It's not "curriculum" so much<br>
as step-by-step recipes for specific tasks.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes" target="_blank">http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes</a><br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Drupal-Views-Recipes-Marjorie-Roswell/dp/1847196969" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Drupal-Views-Recipes-Marjorie-Roswell/dp/1847196969</a><br>
<br>
Its focus is on the end-user, but developers will likely get at least<br>
some value out of it, too, if only for the comprehensive list of<br>
views-enabled modules, the list of views hooks (which don't all<br>
transfer to Views 2), and a few recipes on theming.<br>
<br>
I've done almost no promotion, but seems worth a mention here.<br>
Given the version, sales have been minimal, too, but it's a pretty good book.<br>
<br>
By the way, lest anyone ask: I originally planned to write the next<br>
version, but seemed I needed some self-care more than I needed to<br>
write the upgrade. I developed a vitamin D deficiency over the course<br>
of writing the book. (5 ng/ml, really low)<br>
<br>
Happy New Year everyone.<br>
<br>
Margie<br>
<br>
PS. I'll bet most of us have a D deficiency. Hmmm... maybe time to get<br>
a solar-powered laptop... and a solarium (indoor sun room) for<br>
winter... Hmmm, book sales not quite up to all that!<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:44 AM, David Shaver <<a href="mailto:d.a.shaver@dashaver.com" target="_blank">d.a.shaver@dashaver.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It would be great to some courses on views and cck<br>
> David A. Shaver<br>
> D. A. Shaver Web Design<br>
> Web Page Design for Small Business<br>
> <a href="http://www.dashaver.com" target="_blank">www.dashaver.com</a><br>
> PO Box 594 Galesburg,IL 61402-0594<br>
> 309.343.0027<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:29 PM, James Benstead <<a href="mailto:james.benstead@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.benstead@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> After a brief discussion on the docs list this has now moved to g.d.o<br>
>> at <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/42236" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/42236</a>. One way the project could work is<br>
>> for hardcore Drupal developers to do a little consulting on the course<br>
>> syllabuses for their area(s) of expertise. If this is something that might<br>
>> be of interest to you, please join the g.d.o discussion. Thanks!<br>
>><br>
>> 2009/12/28 James Benstead <<a href="mailto:james.benstead@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.benstead@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I want there to be a set of free courses that people can work through to<br>
>>> learn about Drupal. Initially, at least, these "courses" would be a<br>
>>> reorganisation of existing material, kind of like the Drupal Cookbook.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I suppose the skill/experience element here is going to be working out<br>
>>> what the syllabus needs to be for each course. The courses can then point at<br>
>>> existing documentation, whether that's text or videos or whatever. If there<br>
>>> are gaps, we can write new documentation - so organising things in this way<br>
>>> also helps us work out what documentation we need.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I've posted to the Documentation list at<br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation</a> - I guess that's the<br>
>>> best place to continue this discussion. Would be great if you could help.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2009/12/28 marcia wilbur <<a href="mailto:marcia.k.wilbur@gmail.com" target="_blank">marcia.k.wilbur@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm not sure which direction you are heading with this.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Are you possibly considering video elements with the course design or<br>
>>>> text based courses?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you are talking about simply reorganizing, then it is just a matter<br>
>>>> of management of information, correct?<br>
>>>> If you are considering creating courseware or WBTs based on existing<br>
>>>> documentation that could take a little more time and talent.<br>
>>>> Either way, sounds like a good idea. I could help.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:39 AM, James Benstead<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:james.benstead@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.benstead@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks for the comments.<br>
>>>>> Drupal Dojo is great, when it's running - but it does seem to me that<br>
>>>>> it lacks a little organisation. What I am suggesting doesn't necessarily<br>
>>>>> need to be new documentation, per se, but instead the organisation of<br>
>>>>> existing documentation under a useful structure.<br>
>>>>> Perhaps calling it Drupal University is a bit misleading as I don't<br>
>>>>> forsee there being any formal assessment or accreditation, but there would<br>
>>>>> be structured courses to work through. For example, "Drupal 101: Beginning<br>
>>>>> Drupal" which could teach complete newbies how to set up a core installation<br>
>>>>> on a local or remote server; or "Drupal 201: Basic Theming" which could<br>
>>>>> explain how .tpl.php files worked and how CSS works in Drupal.<br>
>>>>> The Packt books are great, but they are short and sweet and they don't<br>
>>>>> offer an overall structure. Pro Drupal Development is superb and offers a<br>
>>>>> great structure, but it has its limitations: in short, it's a book. First<br>
>>>>> off, you have to buy it, for real money. I have no problem with people<br>
>>>>> making money out of open source software (especially when their work is as<br>
>>>>> brilliant as in the case of PDD), but I do think there should be a free,<br>
>>>>> "open source" alternative. If for no other reason, the cover price of PDD is<br>
>>>>> huge for developers in 2nd or 3rd world countries (i.e., the majority of the<br>
>>>>> population of the planet) and they should have an alternative. Secondly, you<br>
>>>>> can't interact with a book: having a structured set of web resources would<br>
>>>>> mean people could comment on and discuss the resources, kind of like<br>
>>>>> students do on a real university campus.<br>
>>>>> I suppose the resource that gets closest to what I'm thinking is the<br>
>>>>> Drupal Cookbook - this could be Drupal 101. It fits my proposal because it<br>
>>>>> doesn't provide new documentation, but just organises what's already out<br>
>>>>> there. But more importantly, it answers the question, "I am at stage X in<br>
>>>>> learning Drupal, what should I do next?". Granted, it answers the simplest<br>
>>>>> version of this question, and for more advanced developers the answer well<br>
>>>>> may be multi-faceted - "if you want to specialise in X, go and learn Y" -<br>
>>>>> but it does crystallise what I'm proposing.<br>
>>>>> Again, anyone got any more thoughts on this?<br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Google Talk/Windows Live Messenger/AIM: <a href="mailto:james.benstead@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.benstead@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>> Yahoo! Messenger/Twitter/IRC (Freenode): jim0203<br>
>>>>> Jabber: <a href="mailto:jim0203@jabber.org" target="_blank">jim0203@jabber.org</a> // ICQ: 7088050<br>
>>>>> Skype: jimbenstead<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 2009/12/28 Yani <<a href="mailto:akayani@aapt.net.au" target="_blank">akayani@aapt.net.au</a>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.drupalbook.com/" target="_blank">http://www.drupalbook.com/</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> That looks like a good one. I'll make that my first D7 book.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Yani<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">development-bounces@drupal.org</a><br>
>>>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">development-bounces@drupal.org</a>]<br>
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew Schulman<br>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 7:37 PM<br>
>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:development@drupal.org" target="_blank">development@drupal.org</a><br>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [development] Proposal: Drupal University<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> > Shell out some cash on books by Matt Butcher / Packit Publishing.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Packit books are fine as far as they go, but are usually short and<br>
>>>>>> basic.<br>
>>>>>> For a detailed look at Drupal's big picture, I highly recommend Pro<br>
>>>>>> Drupal<br>
>>>>>> Development, 2nd ed. by John VanDyk. 2nd ed. is for D6, but I see<br>
>>>>>> that a<br>
>>>>>> 3rd<br>
>>>>>> edition for D7 is due out in April.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
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