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Victor,<br>
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By your same logic, sites built with Drupal shouldn't ever have
'members-only' content when membership is a paid item. Isn't that
against the free movement of information? That, of course, would cut
out a good portion of the websites built with Drupal.<br>
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One of the foundational principles of the Open Source movement is
giving people the ability to do what they want with software, within
the limits of the license (GPL or otherwise) it is released under.
Nowhere does it give specific use cases of what kind of websites the
software can, and can't be used to build.<br>
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In short, telling this guy he can't have this module on drupal.org
would be completely against what open source stands for. You may
disagree with the use of the module, but it has as much right to exist
as any other.<br>
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Think of it in terms of free speech - we may not agree with what a lot
of people say, but we can't take away from them the right to speak
their mind (unless you happen to be a human rights tribunal, but that's
another issue).<br>
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I can't comment on granting this guy a CVS account.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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Victor Kane wrote:
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cite="mid:ff176451003090646h16af6bddo38af86e10db70c1f@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hi Brian,
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<div>I feel all Open Source projects should adhere to Free Software
Foundation principles involving the free movement of information.</div>
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<div>Perhaps the use of the word "ban" in the module name gits me in
the gut.</div>
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<div>I use the organic groups module to manage access among different
groups in website applications I develop. There is nothing wrong with
the restriction of access per se in a business application for business
purposes. But a module which cheerleads for the U.S. State Department
is quite another thing.</div>
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<div>The sourceforge ban on certain countries is a slap in the face
to the free movement of information. This is unacceptable from a Free
Software Foundation open flow of information perspective.</div>
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<div>We need to oppose that, without allowing business as usual to
take place.</div>
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<div>There is politics in all these decisions, if I am in the
minority, I only ask for the right to state my position and to answer
your questions, Brian.</div>
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<div>It is completely on topic with this mailing list, since it
involves the rush granting of CVS privileges to a new member of the
community, as opposed to stumbling blocks placed in the path of several
Argentine colleagues who have attempted to contribute.</div>
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<div>Victor Kane</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://awebfactory.com.ar">http://awebfactory.com.ar</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://projectflowandtracker.com">http://projectflowandtracker.com</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Brian Vuyk <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian@brianvuyk.com">brian@brianvuyk.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Victor,<br>
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Can you explain, as far as you are able, why this module would be a bad
thing? How does this offend you?<br>
<br>
I can infer, from your 'allowed to infect the Drupal codespace'
comment, and demand that it be taken down that you feel that all Drupal
sites should be available to all people. It seems that you yourself
want to restrict who uses it, and how. That seems to go against
democratic sentiment as well.<br>
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Brian</font>
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Victor Kane wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Regarding the _rigorous_ CVS rights
granting process, how
is it that new user <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://drupal.org/user/701600" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/user/701600</a> is
rushed through that process, and allowed to infect the Drupal codespace
with a module banning countries from using a Drupal site???
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<div>The offending module: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://drupal.org/project/countryban" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/countryban</a> goes
against all democratic sentiment and should be taken down immediately,
and this individual, who wishes to do the work of those who would
restrict internet access based on origin of country, should have his
CVS rights taken from him immediately.</div>
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<div>Victor Kane</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://awebfactory.com.ar"
target="_blank">http://awebfactory.com.ar</a></div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://projectflowandtracker.com" target="_blank">http://projectflowandtracker.com</a><br>
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