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<DIV>Name calling serves no one any good.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Different people learn in different ways. I, too, am one who learns better by doing, so examples are beneficial, especially if they even remotely relate to my issue. And, yes, I even occasionally try to "do before reading" because a solution without a problem seems to be the tail wagging the dog.</DIV>
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<DIV>But when it comes time to read, I do so. Unfortunately, computers only do what you tell them to do, so searching requires the correct terms, and Views docs, in particular, are filled with terms that don't trip off the fingers of the uninitiated readily. That's no slight to Mr. Miles at all; he writes concisely. In my initial response, I gave Mr. Wiseman, the term "relationship" with which to search, hoping that it would get him to the docs he needed. Since I was just waking up and needed to get ready for church, I didn't have time to find the article for him.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mr. Wiseman, in case you didn't know, Mr. Miles is known as "Merlinofchaos" on Drupal.org; strike a bell?</DIV>
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<DIV>I think there might be one other bit of reading that you might want to do: the description of these lists. In contrast to what Mr. Favia wrote, it seems to me that this question should have been in the Support list as it does not deal with the development of Drupal itself.<BR> </DIV>
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<P><FONT face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.</FONT></P>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Iain William Wiseman</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></FONT>On 2/05/2011 8:53 a.m., Michael Favia wrote: </DIV>
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<P>Calling that "another way of learning" is like calling panhandling "another way of earning a living".</P>
<P>Neither benefits the community you belong to and both detract from the gainful contributions of others in time and resources. </P>
<P>That said your question was a reasonable one for this list imo. Some folks even after reading api and docs ask much worse. Welcome to drupal. Respect others time and we'll respect yours. ;)</P>
<P>-mf</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On May 1, 2011 3:36 PM, "Iain William Wiseman" <<A href="mailto:iwiseman@bibble.co.nz" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:iwiseman@bibble.co.nz">iwiseman@bibble.co.nz</A>> wrote:<BR>> On 2/05/2011 2:23 a.m., Earl Miles wrote:<BR>>> On 5/1/2011 4:56 AM, Iain william Wiseman wrote:<BR>>>> I will google this. I am very new. Never read docs but learn by example<BR>>>> - bad I know.<BR>>> In an open source community where you're leaning on volunteers for help,<BR>>> this is an incredibly disrespectful way to get started in the people who<BR>>> work in the community.<BR>> Thank you for your useful contibution and your openess to other ways of <BR>> learning.<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks,<BR><BR>Reading the docs makes little sense without real examples. Only when I understand how it works can I find relevance in the docs. I am not asking everyone to work this way but it is the way I work and I have found I make progress using this approach. Google is your friend. I am happy to share my knowledge without first asking if someone has read the manual back to back or for that matter even opened it. The aim, for me, is to get people to contribution and to make progress. I quick google of bibble_235 drupal will show I also contribute as well.<BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>