From erin at codeknitter.com  Wed Dec  3 22:02:48 2008
From: erin at codeknitter.com (Erin Rasmussen)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:02:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [documentation]  Bookmarking function?
Message-ID: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>

Hi, 
 In the process of looking for solutions to my own drupal problems, and in looking at the drupal documentation. I find that I keep getting lost, and loosing track of stories that needed editing, or were otherwise interesting to me. 

A browser bookmark would be a great solution for me, except for the fact that I make my life more complicated by frequently working in a 'hot-seat' situation where i do the same job from multiple computers.  

Is there an online bookmarking system that I can use to help me keep track of drupal documentation? I know there are social bookmarking sites, are there any that any other documentation team members have found have particularly useful?

  (Additionally, and aside : would this sort of functionality help other users? It would be nice to log into the drupal site, and have my own set of bookmarks to play with). 

So - i guess it's sort of a support question, but since it directly relates to navigating the documentation pages I thought it may be a better idea to ask the question here.

Thanks,
Erin 
erin at codeknitter.com
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From kristof at pronovix.com  Wed Dec  3 22:35:41 2008
From: kristof at pronovix.com (Kristof Van Tomme)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:35:41 +0100
Subject: [documentation] Bookmarking function?
In-Reply-To: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>
References: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f47e030812031435q33efefc5s14a7df6bbea45a64@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Erin,

I recently made a bookmarklet-knowledge management system-neontology
mashup for drupal specific knowledge management. Maybe what you are
looking for?

check out my blogpost at:
http://www.pronovix.com/solution/druplet-knowledge-management-system-drupal-built-drupal

The system:
-stores the interesting snippets from webpages with their context (e.g. URL)
-does this almost full automatically (using a bookmarklet and some
smart node referencing)
-gives you related problems and their solutions
-let's people build an RDF schema vocabulary from the knowledge tags
people submit (e.g. this will get us a Drupal problem ontology)

As we speak the druplet.org domain DNS is propagating

it's still early development, but I'lld be happy to have you and some
other folks from the doc list as testers ;)

Cheers,
Kristof







2008/12/3 Erin Rasmussen <erin at codeknitter.com>:
> Hi,
>  In the process of looking for solutions to my own drupal problems, and in
> looking at the drupal documentation. I find that I keep getting lost, and
> loosing track of stories that needed editing, or were otherwise interesting
> to me.
>
> A browser bookmark would be a great solution for me, except for the fact
> that I make my life more complicated by frequently working in a 'hot-seat'
> situation where i do the same job from multiple computers.
>
> Is there an online bookmarking system that I can use to help me keep track
> of drupal documentation? I know there are social bookmarking sites, are
> there any that any other documentation team members have found have
> particularly useful?
>
>   (Additionally, and aside : would this sort of functionality help other
> users? It would be nice to log into the drupal site, and have my own set of
> bookmarks to play with).
>
> So - i guess it's sort of a support question, but since it directly relates
> to navigating the documentation pages I thought it may be a better idea to
> ask the question here.
>
> Thanks,
> Erin
> erin at codeknitter.com
>
>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>

From forums at ipwa.net  Wed Dec  3 22:43:12 2008
From: forums at ipwa.net (Nicolas Borda)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:43:12 +0000
Subject: [documentation] Bookmarking function?
In-Reply-To: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>
References: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2019048D-80C8-49D9-876E-C14CCBEB777F@ipwa.net>


On 3 Dec 2008, at 22:02, Erin Rasmussen wrote:

> Is there an online bookmarking system that I can use to help me  
> keep track of drupal documentation? I know there are social  
> bookmarking sites, are there any that any other documentation team  
> members have found have particularly useful?

Delicious is great: http://delicious.com/

http://delicious.com/nborda/drupal+handbook

HTH

-- 

Nicolas

http://nic.ipwa.net/



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From esmerel at logrus.com  Wed Dec  3 23:25:22 2008
From: esmerel at logrus.com (Lynette)
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:25:22 -0800
Subject: [documentation] Bookmarking function?
In-Reply-To: <2019048D-80C8-49D9-876E-C14CCBEB777F@ipwa.net>
References: <351891.57235.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com>
	<2019048D-80C8-49D9-876E-C14CCBEB777F@ipwa.net>
Message-ID: <49371562.5030807@logrus.com>

I pretty much use delicious for all my bookmarking - but it just stores 
the URL, page title, and tags (all of which are modifiable before 
saving). I <3 it though, it's clean, simple, easy to read from a mobile 
phone browser, AND has a drupal integration module! 
http://drupal.org/project/delicious

Nicolas Borda wrote:
> 
> On 3 Dec 2008, at 22:02, Erin Rasmussen wrote:
> 
>> Is there an online bookmarking system that I can use to help me keep 
>> track of drupal documentation? I know there are social bookmarking 
>> sites, are there any that any other documentation team members have 
>> found have particularly useful?
> 
> Delicious is great: http://delicious.com/
> 
> http://delicious.com/nborda/drupal+handbook
> 
> HTH
> 
> -- 
> 
> Nicolas 
> 
> http://nic.ipwa.net/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/


From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Sat Dec  6 12:59:48 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:59:48 -0500
Subject: [documentation] New Help System Docs in Drupal 7
Message-ID: <CCAAB1B9-6F96-488C-A138-AD12611A792E@rocktreesky.com>

Hey folks, so there has been a ton of work done on getting a new help  
system into Drupal core. They are now at the point of writing  
documentation to add to the system. I have cross-posted two posts from  
their group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) into the  
Documentation team group:

Interested in contributing to core documentation? http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287
Style Guidelines for Help System http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302

We *really* need to coordinate with this effort. Check it out, speak  
up and dig in.

Thanks
- Addi (add1sun)
--------------------------------------
Join us at Do It With Drupal!
A large scale, curated education event
December 10-12, New Orleans
http://www.doitwithdrupal.com







From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Sat Dec  6 22:52:08 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:52:08 -0500
Subject: [documentation] return of most popular handbook pages list
Message-ID: <33B72181-01D4-4025-8866-70BA2AB4DAD1@rocktreesky.com>

For those that were wondering, the old Most popular handbook pages  
list (handbook/most-popular-pages) stopped working earlier this year  
because d.o stopped using the stats module from which we were  
programmatically pulling the list. After a bit of back and forth, the  
list is back in a different form. I am manually compiling a list of  
the top 25 for each month from the server log AWStats. I have added  
the link back to the Documentation links block as well. Enjoy.

- Addi (add1sun)
--------------------------------------
Join us at Do It With Drupal!
A large scale, curated education event
December 10-12, New Orleans
http://www.doitwithdrupal.com







From dmitrig01 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 17:08:21 2008
From: dmitrig01 at gmail.com (Dmitri Gaskin)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:08:21 -0800
Subject: [documentation] Contributions needed to core documentation
Message-ID: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>

Drupal 7 will (hopefully) see the introduction of a new and completely  
overhauled help system (read: starting from scratch).
However, this means that all documentation must be re-written.

This is not a job for one person! We need everyone to pitch in and  
help (no pun intended). If everyone can write two (2) pages, then  
we'll be <strong>very</strong> well off.

The kind people at the Help System group on groups.drupal.org (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system 
) have assembled a workflow for you to take part in. Here's how to  
write a help page for a module:

1. Log in <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/user/login">here</a>. If  
you don't already have an account, you can log in with YOUR_DRUPAL.ORG_USERNAME at drupal.org 
  as your usename and your drupal.org password as your password.
2. Navigate your browser to http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/wikipage?gids 
[]=12401 to start your new wiki page.
3. Choose "Drupal Documentation Task" for the "Group categories"  
vocabulary
4. Choose the name of the module for which you are writing  
documentation for the "Help topic module" vocabulary
5. Fill in the title and the body to those that you wish to appear on  
your help page.
6. Be sure to adhere to the guidelines ("http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302 
").
7. Hit submit!

If everyone can do two (2) of these, we'll have all the help pages in  
core done in a matter of days. And guess who it starts with? You!

If you would like to edit an existing page, simply go to the Help  
System group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) find the page  
along the left, click on it, and click the edit tab.

Things to note:
1. The topic titles of each module, on the left side of group page,  
are not listed in any order (although the modules are). The final  
order can be decided later.
2. We are not using the drupal.org handbooks for specific styles/ 
patterns that we need to follow for the help module's requirements.  
Check comments at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287 for further  
information.
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From victorkane at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 17:10:23 2008
From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:10:23 -0200
Subject: [documentation] Contributions needed to core documentation
In-Reply-To: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>
References: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>

No!

Documentation should be crowd-sourced, on the heels of the excellent
opening up of the editing of the document handbooks.

It shouldn't require "extra work", but rather, a climate favorable to
crowd participation should be created.

Victor Kane
http://awebfactory.com.ar

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Dmitri Gaskin <dmitrig01 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Drupal 7 will (hopefully) see the introduction of a new and completely
> overhauled help system (read: starting from scratch).
> However, this means that all documentation must be re-written.
> This is not a job for one person! We need everyone to pitch in and help (no
> pun intended). If everyone can write two (2) pages, then we'll be
> <strong>very</strong> well off.
> The kind people at the Help System group on groups.drupal.org
> (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) have assembled a workflow for you to
> take part in. Here's how to write a help page for a module:
> 1. Log in <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/user/login">here</a>. If you
> don't already have an account, you can log in
> with YOUR_DRUPAL.ORG_USERNAME at drupal.org as your usename and your drupal.org
> password as your password.
> 2. Navigate your browser
> to http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/wikipage?gids[]=12401 to start your new
> wiki page.
> 3. Choose "Drupal Documentation Task" for the "Group categories" vocabulary
> 4. Choose the name of the module for which you are writing documentation for
> the "Help topic module" vocabulary
> 5. Fill in the title and the body to those that you wish to appear on your
> help page.
> 6. Be sure to adhere to the guidelines
> ("http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302").
> 7. Hit submit!
> If everyone can do two (2) of these, we'll have all the help pages in core
> done in a matter of days. And guess who it starts with? You!
> If you would like to edit an existing page, simply go to the Help System
> group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) find the page along the left,
> click on it, and click the edit tab.
> Things to note:
> 1. The topic titles of each module, on the left side of group page, are not
> listed in any order (although the modules are). The final order can be
> decided later.
> 2. We are not using the drupal.org handbooks for specific styles/patterns
> that we need to follow for the help module's requirements. Check comments
> at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287 for further information.
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>

From dmitrig01 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 17:19:20 2008
From: dmitrig01 at gmail.com (Dmitri Gaskin)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:19:20 -0800
Subject: [documentation] Contributions needed to core documentation
In-Reply-To: <ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>
	<ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B37D4E5-5747-4B1B-A979-464AF8DA8539@gmail.com>

Describe please. Sorry for sending the email multiple times.

Dmitri

On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Victor Kane wrote:

> No!
>
> Documentation should be crowd-sourced, on the heels of the excellent
> opening up of the editing of the document handbooks.
>
> It shouldn't require "extra work", but rather, a climate favorable to
> crowd participation should be created.
>
> Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Dmitri Gaskin <dmitrig01 at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Drupal 7 will (hopefully) see the introduction of a new and  
>> completely
>> overhauled help system (read: starting from scratch).
>> However, this means that all documentation must be re-written.
>> This is not a job for one person! We need everyone to pitch in and  
>> help (no
>> pun intended). If everyone can write two (2) pages, then we'll be
>> <strong>very</strong> well off.
>> The kind people at the Help System group on groups.drupal.org
>> (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) have assembled a workflow  
>> for you to
>> take part in. Here's how to write a help page for a module:
>> 1. Log in <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/user/login">here</a>.  
>> If you
>> don't already have an account, you can log in
>> with YOUR_DRUPAL.ORG_USERNAME at drupal.org as your usename and your  
>> drupal.org
>> password as your password.
>> 2. Navigate your browser
>> to http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/wikipage?gids[]=12401 to start  
>> your new
>> wiki page.
>> 3. Choose "Drupal Documentation Task" for the "Group categories"  
>> vocabulary
>> 4. Choose the name of the module for which you are writing  
>> documentation for
>> the "Help topic module" vocabulary
>> 5. Fill in the title and the body to those that you wish to appear  
>> on your
>> help page.
>> 6. Be sure to adhere to the guidelines
>> ("http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302").
>> 7. Hit submit!
>> If everyone can do two (2) of these, we'll have all the help pages  
>> in core
>> done in a matter of days. And guess who it starts with? You!
>> If you would like to edit an existing page, simply go to the Help  
>> System
>> group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) find the page along  
>> the left,
>> click on it, and click the edit tab.
>> Things to note:
>> 1. The topic titles of each module, on the left side of group page,  
>> are not
>> listed in any order (although the modules are). The final order can  
>> be
>> decided later.
>> 2. We are not using the drupal.org handbooks for specific styles/ 
>> patterns
>> that we need to follow for the help module's requirements. Check  
>> comments
>> at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287 for further information.
>> --
>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/


From victorkane at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 17:21:56 2008
From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:21:56 -0200
Subject: [documentation] Contributions needed to core documentation
In-Reply-To: <ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>
	<ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff176450812070921qeed762fieb060ba5bf506af4@mail.gmail.com>

Module maintainers should start writing docs in the new context,
anyone who just figured out something, document team members can write
overviews like the theming handbook...

That way, it can be written gradually, not in one heroic go.



On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com> wrote:
> No!
>
> Documentation should be crowd-sourced, on the heels of the excellent
> opening up of the editing of the document handbooks.
>
> It shouldn't require "extra work", but rather, a climate favorable to
> crowd participation should be created.
>
> Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Dmitri Gaskin <dmitrig01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Drupal 7 will (hopefully) see the introduction of a new and completely
>> overhauled help system (read: starting from scratch).
>> However, this means that all documentation must be re-written.
>> This is not a job for one person! We need everyone to pitch in and help (no
>> pun intended). If everyone can write two (2) pages, then we'll be
>> <strong>very</strong> well off.
>> The kind people at the Help System group on groups.drupal.org
>> (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) have assembled a workflow for you to
>> take part in. Here's how to write a help page for a module:
>> 1. Log in <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/user/login">here</a>. If you
>> don't already have an account, you can log in
>> with YOUR_DRUPAL.ORG_USERNAME at drupal.org as your usename and your drupal.org
>> password as your password.
>> 2. Navigate your browser
>> to http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/wikipage?gids[]=12401 to start your new
>> wiki page.
>> 3. Choose "Drupal Documentation Task" for the "Group categories" vocabulary
>> 4. Choose the name of the module for which you are writing documentation for
>> the "Help topic module" vocabulary
>> 5. Fill in the title and the body to those that you wish to appear on your
>> help page.
>> 6. Be sure to adhere to the guidelines
>> ("http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302").
>> 7. Hit submit!
>> If everyone can do two (2) of these, we'll have all the help pages in core
>> done in a matter of days. And guess who it starts with? You!
>> If you would like to edit an existing page, simply go to the Help System
>> group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) find the page along the left,
>> click on it, and click the edit tab.
>> Things to note:
>> 1. The topic titles of each module, on the left side of group page, are not
>> listed in any order (although the modules are). The final order can be
>> decided later.
>> 2. We are not using the drupal.org handbooks for specific styles/patterns
>> that we need to follow for the help module's requirements. Check comments
>> at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287 for further information.
>> --
>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>>
>

From dmitrig01 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  7 18:41:58 2008
From: dmitrig01 at gmail.com (Dmitri Gaskin)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:41:58 -0800
Subject: [documentation] Contributions needed to core documentation
In-Reply-To: <ff176450812070921qeed762fieb060ba5bf506af4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8E690C27-B439-4E34-8944-79EF9FB358FC@gmail.com>
	<ff176450812070910y47c82f53g23f9351688849fd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff176450812070921qeed762fieb060ba5bf506af4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE70CB84-7543-4410-A1D0-5FF08AD983F8@gmail.com>

That would be optimal, but we need new documentation for Drupal 7.
What people put in to there will not be filling up the handbooks, it  
will be transfered into the new help system included in drupal core.  
It will be come the help pages.
We need *some* help to be included in core, because there is no  
guarentee that it will come in later.

So if we can at least get a large start, not all of it needs to be  
finished, but a lot of it.

Dmitri

On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Victor Kane wrote:

> Module maintainers should start writing docs in the new context,
> anyone who just figured out something, document team members can write
> overviews like the theming handbook...
>
> That way, it can be written gradually, not in one heroic go.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> No!
>>
>> Documentation should be crowd-sourced, on the heels of the excellent
>> opening up of the editing of the document handbooks.
>>
>> It shouldn't require "extra work", but rather, a climate favorable to
>> crowd participation should be created.
>>
>> Victor Kane
>> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Dmitri Gaskin <dmitrig01 at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> Drupal 7 will (hopefully) see the introduction of a new and  
>>> completely
>>> overhauled help system (read: starting from scratch).
>>> However, this means that all documentation must be re-written.
>>> This is not a job for one person! We need everyone to pitch in and  
>>> help (no
>>> pun intended). If everyone can write two (2) pages, then we'll be
>>> <strong>very</strong> well off.
>>> The kind people at the Help System group on groups.drupal.org
>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) have assembled a workflow  
>>> for you to
>>> take part in. Here's how to write a help page for a module:
>>> 1. Log in <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/user/login">here</a>.  
>>> If you
>>> don't already have an account, you can log in
>>> with YOUR_DRUPAL.ORG_USERNAME at drupal.org as your usename and your  
>>> drupal.org
>>> password as your password.
>>> 2. Navigate your browser
>>> to http://groups.drupal.org/node/add/wikipage?gids[]=12401 to  
>>> start your new
>>> wiki page.
>>> 3. Choose "Drupal Documentation Task" for the "Group categories"  
>>> vocabulary
>>> 4. Choose the name of the module for which you are writing  
>>> documentation for
>>> the "Help topic module" vocabulary
>>> 5. Fill in the title and the body to those that you wish to appear  
>>> on your
>>> help page.
>>> 6. Be sure to adhere to the guidelines
>>> ("http://groups.drupal.org/node/17302").
>>> 7. Hit submit!
>>> If everyone can do two (2) of these, we'll have all the help pages  
>>> in core
>>> done in a matter of days. And guess who it starts with? You!
>>> If you would like to edit an existing page, simply go to the Help  
>>> System
>>> group (http://groups.drupal.org/help-system) find the page along  
>>> the left,
>>> click on it, and click the edit tab.
>>> Things to note:
>>> 1. The topic titles of each module, on the left side of group  
>>> page, are not
>>> listed in any order (although the modules are). The final order  
>>> can be
>>> decided later.
>>> 2. We are not using the drupal.org handbooks for specific styles/ 
>>> patterns
>>> that we need to follow for the help module's requirements. Check  
>>> comments
>>> at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17287 for further information.
>>> --
>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>>>
>>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/


From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Tue Dec 16 13:38:23 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:38:23 -0500
Subject: [documentation] Next IRC meeting?
Message-ID: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>

I'd like for us to have an IRC meeting to see where various projects  
are and talk about current issues and the redesign. The holidays are  
upon us so I wanted to check if folks were up for a meeting at the end  
of this week before they start in earnest. if so, I'll start a Doodle  
for this week. If not we can wait until the first week in January.  
Please respond and let me know!


- Addi (add1sun)

www.lullabot.com
Our Drupal DVD:
   - Understanding Drupal: http://store.lullabot.com/products/understanding-drupal
Our Drupal Books:
   - Pro Drupal Development: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1430209895/lullabot-20
   - Using Drupal: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0596515804/lullabot-20


From shai at content2zero.com  Tue Dec 16 14:41:35 2008
From: shai at content2zero.com (Shai Gluskin)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:41:35 -0500
Subject: [documentation] Next IRC meeting?
In-Reply-To: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>
References: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>
Message-ID: <9f68efb70812160641p25b5b647me0cc883b1ce98b77@mail.gmail.com>

Addi and all,

I could go either way... feeling a bit swamped but I also need a kick
in....... to get back on task with the docs stuff.

shai

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Addison Berry <drupal at rocktreesky.com>wrote:

> I'd like for us to have an IRC meeting to see where various projects
> are and talk about current issues and the redesign. The holidays are
> upon us so I wanted to check if folks were up for a meeting at the end
> of this week before they start in earnest. if so, I'll start a Doodle
> for this week. If not we can wait until the first week in January.
> Please respond and let me know!
>
>
> - Addi (add1sun)
>
> www.lullabot.com
> Our Drupal DVD:
>   - Understanding Drupal:
> http://store.lullabot.com/products/understanding-drupal
> Our Drupal Books:
>   - Pro Drupal Development:
> http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1430209895/lullabot-20
>   - Using Drupal: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0596515804/lullabot-20
>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
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From joshua at brauerranch.com  Tue Dec 16 14:41:51 2008
From: joshua at brauerranch.com (Joshua Brauer)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:41:51 -0700
Subject: [documentation] Next IRC meeting?
In-Reply-To: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>
References: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>
Message-ID: <A85A910B-003D-4DE4-8308-9C34908B512B@brauerranch.com>

End of the week could work...

On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Addison Berry wrote:

> I'd like for us to have an IRC meeting to see where various projects
> are and talk about current issues and the redesign. The holidays are
> upon us so I wanted to check if folks were up for a meeting at the end
> of this week before they start in earnest. if so, I'll start a Doodle
> for this week. If not we can wait until the first week in January.
> Please respond and let me know!
>
>
> - Addi (add1sun)
>
> www.lullabot.com
> Our Drupal DVD:
>   - Understanding Drupal: http://store.lullabot.com/products/understanding-drupal
> Our Drupal Books:
>   - Pro Drupal Development: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1430209895/lullabot-20
>   - Using Drupal: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0596515804/lullabot-20
>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/

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From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Tue Dec 16 16:33:46 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:33:46 -0500
Subject: [documentation] Schedule Next IRC meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <A85A910B-003D-4DE4-8308-9C34908B512B@brauerranch.com>
References: <6C89F2E3-FF4D-45A8-A3C3-BFB89763A56D@rocktreesky.com>
	<A85A910B-003D-4DE4-8308-9C34908B512B@brauerranch.com>
Message-ID: <D82656F1-583D-4BA4-A6E3-2A227F7040A9@rocktreesky.com>

Ok, I've gotten feedback from here and IRC to go ahead and schedule.  
Here is the Doodle: http://doodle.com/34ap6e6y24t7isv6
We will meet for one hour in the #drupal-docs IRC channel on the  
FreeNode network. Please *vote on Doodle* by Wednesday (tomorrow)  
midnight GMT (7pm EST, 4pm PST).

Agenda:
Announcements
Status on Theme guide reorg
More Getting Started org discussion
Talk about redesign status
Discuss the new help system in core issues

- Addi (add1sun)



On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Joshua Brauer wrote:

> End of the week could work...
>
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Addison Berry wrote:
>
>> I'd like for us to have an IRC meeting to see where various projects
>> are and talk about current issues and the redesign. The holidays are
>> upon us so I wanted to check if folks were up for a meeting at the  
>> end
>> of this week before they start in earnest. if so, I'll start a Doodle
>> for this week. If not we can wait until the first week in January.
>> Please respond and let me know!
>>
>>
>> - Addi (add1sun)
>>
>> www.lullabot.com
>> Our Drupal DVD:
>>  - Understanding Drupal: http://store.lullabot.com/products/understanding-drupal
>> Our Drupal Books:
>>  - Pro Drupal Development: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1430209895/lullabot-20
>>  - Using Drupal: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0596515804/lullabot-20
>>
>> --
>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/

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From larry at garfieldtech.com  Wed Dec 17 08:21:19 2008
From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:21:19 -0600
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
Message-ID: <200812170221.19201.larry@garfieldtech.com>

Hello, documentation type people. :-)

Some time ago I wrote up documentation on the new DBTNG system.  It was good, 
save for conditional handling which was missing for a while because it was 
much harder to explain.  That is now written.  And there was much rejoicing.

I would therefore like to get feedback from the Docs folks on the 
documentation, particularly on the conditionals as that's the hardest part to 
grok.  

http://drupal.org/dbtng-documentation

Comments on the pages, replies to this email, or direct edits for small things 
are all cool by me. :-)  I know driver documentation is still missing.  That's 
because that API is still subject to change, so it's not worth documenting 
until we're done breaking it.

Thanks all!

-- 
Larry Garfield
larry at garfieldtech.com

From robloach at gmail.com  Wed Dec 17 17:02:29 2008
From: robloach at gmail.com (Rob Loach)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:02:29 -0500
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
In-Reply-To: <200812170221.19201.larry@garfieldtech.com>
References: <200812170221.19201.larry@garfieldtech.com>
Message-ID: <494930A5.3020403@gmail.com>

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Hi Larry,

Nicely done on the documentation. Everything is easy to read, and well
organized. Great job!

One thing to note is that hook.api.php files made it into core
(http://drupal.org/node/314870), so are there any places with the new
database layer that would benefit from having any extra database.api.php
documentation files around?

Thanks a lot,

- --
Rob Loach
http://www.robloach.net


Larry Garfield wrote:
> Hello, documentation type people. :-)
> 
> Some time ago I wrote up documentation on the new DBTNG system.  It was good, 
> save for conditional handling which was missing for a while because it was 
> much harder to explain.  That is now written.  And there was much rejoicing.
> 
> I would therefore like to get feedback from the Docs folks on the 
> documentation, particularly on the conditionals as that's the hardest part to 
> grok.  
> 
> http://drupal.org/dbtng-documentation
> 
> Comments on the pages, replies to this email, or direct edits for small things 
> are all cool by me. :-)  I know driver documentation is still missing.  That's 
> because that API is still subject to change, so it's not worth documenting 
> until we're done breaking it.
> 
> Thanks all!
> 

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From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Wed Dec 17 21:49:23 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:49:23 -0500
Subject: [documentation] December IRC meeting
References: <20081217213034.E3DFF16B4E7@www1.drupal.org>
Message-ID: <6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>

> add1sun has posted a Event at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17610
>
> December IRC meeting
> ---------------
> The Doodle has spoken. Next meeting is Thursday, December 18 at noon  
> EST (17:00 GMT, 9 a.m. PST).

> We will meet for one hour in the #drupal-docs IRC channel on the  
> FreeNode network and discuss:
> Announcements
> Status on Theme guide reorg
> More Getting Started org discussion
> Talk about redesign status
> Discuss the new help system in core issues

- Addi

From larry at garfieldtech.com  Thu Dec 18 04:28:51 2008
From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:28:51 -0600
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
In-Reply-To: <494930A5.3020403@gmail.com>
References: <200812170221.19201.larry@garfieldtech.com>
	<494930A5.3020403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200812172228.51890.larry@garfieldtech.com>

On Wednesday 17 December 2008 11:02:29 am you wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> Nicely done on the documentation. Everything is easy to read, and well
> organized. Great job!
>
> One thing to note is that hook.api.php files made it into core
> (http://drupal.org/node/314870), so are there any places with the new
> database layer that would benefit from having any extra database.api.php
> documentation files around?
>
> Thanks a lot,

Hey neat, that made it in.

I think DBTNG introduces only one hook, hook_query_alter, so I've opened an 
issue for that:

http://drupal.org/node/348519

I'm not sure that in-code is the best place to document the rest of DBTNG, 
beyond the docblocks already in database.inc.  The handbooks are probably 
better as it's less API samples and more prose explanations.  That said, I'm 
fine if someone wants to copy portions of the handbooks into a docblock.  
(Technically the licenses are incompatible, but as the original author of 98% 
of the DBTNG documentation I hereby dual-license it as needed yadda yadda.)

-- 
Larry Garfield
larry at garfieldtech.com

From catch56 at googlemail.com  Thu Dec 18 09:54:21 2008
From: catch56 at googlemail.com (Nathaniel Catchpole)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:54:21 +0000
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
In-Reply-To: <200812172228.51890.larry@garfieldtech.com>
References: <200812170221.19201.larry@garfieldtech.com>
	<494930A5.3020403@gmail.com>
	<200812172228.51890.larry@garfieldtech.com>
Message-ID: <fa5724270812180154g37f1648eq58b600de5238b4e5@mail.gmail.com>

Just saw the docs here have been updated -
http://api.drupal.org/api/group/database/7 - this could do with a link to
the handbook section too though probably.

Nat

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Larry Garfield <larry at garfieldtech.com>wrote:

> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 11:02:29 am you wrote:
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > Nicely done on the documentation. Everything is easy to read, and well
> > organized. Great job!
> >
> > One thing to note is that hook.api.php files made it into core
> > (http://drupal.org/node/314870), so are there any places with the new
> > database layer that would benefit from having any extra database.api.php
> > documentation files around?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
>
> Hey neat, that made it in.
>
> I think DBTNG introduces only one hook, hook_query_alter, so I've opened an
> issue for that:
>
> http://drupal.org/node/348519
>
> I'm not sure that in-code is the best place to document the rest of DBTNG,
> beyond the docblocks already in database.inc.  The handbooks are probably
> better as it's less API samples and more prose explanations.  That said,
> I'm
> fine if someone wants to copy portions of the handbooks into a docblock.
> (Technically the licenses are incompatible, but as the original author of
> 98%
> of the DBTNG documentation I hereby dual-license it as needed yadda yadda.)
>
> --
> Larry Garfield
> larry at garfieldtech.com
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>
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From larry at garfieldtech.com  Thu Dec 18 16:18:38 2008
From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:18:38 -0600
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
In-Reply-To: <fa5724270812180154g37f1648eq58b600de5238b4e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa5724270812180154g37f1648eq58b600de5238b4e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76270afc5f071d5c63e5e009650fd7cb@localhost>


Changed the link on the first page of the docs to point to the database group directly.  API.module still needs to be taught how to handle classes, though.

--Larry Garfield

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:54:21 +0000, "Nathaniel Catchpole" <catch56 at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Just saw the docs here have been updated -
> http://api.drupal.org/api/group/database/7 - this could do with a link to
> the handbook section too though probably.
> 
> Nat
> 
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Larry Garfield
> <larry at garfieldtech.com>wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 11:02:29 am you wrote:
>> > Hi Larry,
>> >
>> > Nicely done on the documentation. Everything is easy to read, and well
>> > organized. Great job!
>> >
>> > One thing to note is that hook.api.php files made it into core
>> > (http://drupal.org/node/314870), so are there any places with the new
>> > database layer that would benefit from having any extra
> database.api.php
>> > documentation files around?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot,
>>
>> Hey neat, that made it in.
>>
>> I think DBTNG introduces only one hook, hook_query_alter, so I've opened
> an
>> issue for that:
>>
>> http://drupal.org/node/348519
>>
>> I'm not sure that in-code is the best place to document the rest of
> DBTNG,
>> beyond the docblocks already in database.inc.  The handbooks are
> probably
>> better as it's less API samples and more prose explanations.  That said,
>> I'm
>> fine if someone wants to copy portions of the handbooks into a docblock.
>> (Technically the licenses are incompatible, but as the original author
> of
>> 98%
>> of the DBTNG documentation I hereby dual-license it as needed yadda
> yadda.)
>>
>> --
>> Larry Garfield
>> larry at garfieldtech.com
>> --
>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>>
> 
> 


From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Thu Dec 18 16:59:08 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:59:08 -0500
Subject: [documentation] REMINDER: December IRC meeting starting now-ish
References: <6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>
Message-ID: <695A20E2-92E2-405C-A881-622E91FD0AD6@rocktreesky.com>

Just a reminder, since this meeting came up so quickly, that we are  
starting in a few minutes.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Addison Berry <drupal at rocktreesky.com>
> Date: December 17, 2008 4:49:23 PM EST
> To: documentation at drupal.org
> Subject: [documentation] December IRC meeting
> Reply-To: A list for documentation writers <documentation at drupal.org>
>
>> add1sun has posted a Event at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17610
>>
>> December IRC meeting
>> ---------------
>> The Doodle has spoken. Next meeting is Thursday, December 18 at noon
>> EST (17:00 GMT, 9 a.m. PST).
>
>> We will meet for one hour in the #drupal-docs IRC channel on the
>> FreeNode network and discuss:
>> Announcements
>> Status on Theme guide reorg
>> More Getting Started org discussion
>> Talk about redesign status
>> Discuss the new help system in core issues
>
> - Addi
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/

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From pinglaura at gmail.com  Thu Dec 18 18:10:33 2008
From: pinglaura at gmail.com (Laura Scott)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:10:33 -0700
Subject: [documentation] December IRC meeting
In-Reply-To: <6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>
References: <20081217213034.E3DFF16B4E7@www1.drupal.org>
	<6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>
Message-ID: <4E700844-A662-4678-8093-0399BD19C26F@gmail.com>

Sorry I couldn't make it. My Colloquy is deaf and blind for some  
reason. But I do intend to get back onto doc tasks in the new year.

Laura

On Wed Dec 17, 2008, at 2:49 pm, Addison Berry wrote:

>> add1sun has posted a Event at http://groups.drupal.org/node/17610
>>
>> December IRC meeting
>> ---------------
>> The Doodle has spoken. Next meeting is Thursday, December 18 at noon
>> EST (17:00 GMT, 9 a.m. PST).
>
>> We will meet for one hour in the #drupal-docs IRC channel on the
>> FreeNode network and discuss:
>> Announcements
>> Status on Theme guide reorg
>> More Getting Started org discussion
>> Talk about redesign status
>> Discuss the new help system in core issues
>
> - Addi
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/


From andrewberry at sentex.net  Thu Dec 18 18:21:29 2008
From: andrewberry at sentex.net (Andrew Berry)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:21:29 -0500
Subject: [documentation] December IRC meeting
In-Reply-To: <4E700844-A662-4678-8093-0399BD19C26F@gmail.com>
References: <20081217213034.E3DFF16B4E7@www1.drupal.org>
	<6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>
	<4E700844-A662-4678-8093-0399BD19C26F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3CEAFA3A-C338-4704-A8C4-B305AAE74910@sentex.net>

On 18-Dec-08, at 1:10 PM, Laura Scott wrote:

> Sorry I couldn't make it. My Colloquy is deaf and blind for some
> reason. But I do intend to get back onto doc tasks in the new year.

It's a bug in Webkit apparently - try "/reload style" in the channel  
that's not showing anything. I have to do it about once a week.

--Andrew
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From drumm at delocalizedham.com  Thu Dec 18 21:13:18 2008
From: drumm at delocalizedham.com (Neil Drumm)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:13:18 -0800
Subject: [documentation] DBTNG docs need review
In-Reply-To: <76270afc5f071d5c63e5e009650fd7cb@localhost>
References: <fa5724270812180154g37f1648eq58b600de5238b4e5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76270afc5f071d5c63e5e009650fd7cb@localhost>
Message-ID: <c96281260812181313k6daa2985ge756a3e78b25f5f2@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, that is high on the list. We need to chunk the code into
functions/constants/etc with PHP's tokenizer instead of regular
expressions hard-coded to our coding conventions.
http://drupal.org/node/300031

-Neil

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Larry Garfield <larry at garfieldtech.com> wrote:
>
> Changed the link on the first page of the docs to point to the database group directly.  API.module still needs to be taught how to handle classes, though.
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:54:21 +0000, "Nathaniel Catchpole" <catch56 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Just saw the docs here have been updated -
>> http://api.drupal.org/api/group/database/7 - this could do with a link to
>> the handbook section too though probably.
>>
>> Nat
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Larry Garfield
>> <larry at garfieldtech.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 11:02:29 am you wrote:
>>> > Hi Larry,
>>> >
>>> > Nicely done on the documentation. Everything is easy to read, and well
>>> > organized. Great job!
>>> >
>>> > One thing to note is that hook.api.php files made it into core
>>> > (http://drupal.org/node/314870), so are there any places with the new
>>> > database layer that would benefit from having any extra
>> database.api.php
>>> > documentation files around?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks a lot,
>>>
>>> Hey neat, that made it in.
>>>
>>> I think DBTNG introduces only one hook, hook_query_alter, so I've opened
>> an
>>> issue for that:
>>>
>>> http://drupal.org/node/348519
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that in-code is the best place to document the rest of
>> DBTNG,
>>> beyond the docblocks already in database.inc.  The handbooks are
>> probably
>>> better as it's less API samples and more prose explanations.  That said,
>>> I'm
>>> fine if someone wants to copy portions of the handbooks into a docblock.
>>> (Technically the licenses are incompatible, but as the original author
>> of
>>> 98%
>>> of the DBTNG documentation I hereby dual-license it as needed yadda
>> yadda.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Garfield
>>> larry at garfieldtech.com
>>> --
>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>



-- 
Neil Drumm
http://delocalizedham.com

From pinglaura at gmail.com  Fri Dec 19 00:44:12 2008
From: pinglaura at gmail.com (Laura Scott)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:44:12 -0700
Subject: [documentation] December IRC meeting
In-Reply-To: <3CEAFA3A-C338-4704-A8C4-B305AAE74910@sentex.net>
References: <20081217213034.E3DFF16B4E7@www1.drupal.org>
	<6AA94FCD-C3D5-49FA-B395-687D9E694BD1@rocktreesky.com>
	<4E700844-A662-4678-8093-0399BD19C26F@gmail.com>
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On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:21 am, Andrew Berry wrote:

> On 18-Dec-08, at 1:10 PM, Laura Scott wrote:
>
>> Sorry I couldn't make it. My Colloquy is deaf and blind for some
>> reason. But I do intend to get back onto doc tasks in the new year.
>
> It's a bug in Webkit apparently - try "/reload style" in the channel  
> that's not showing anything. I have to do it about once a week.

No joy. Total Fail on Colloquy. Thanks for the tip, though. I would  
manually reset the style via GUI and that would work before. No more.

Laura

From drupal at rocktreesky.com  Fri Dec 19 17:35:08 2008
From: drupal at rocktreesky.com (Addison Berry)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:35:08 -0500
Subject: [documentation] Dec. 18 IRC meeting Summary and Log
References: <20081219173022.4C22216B54B@www1.drupal.org>
Message-ID: <7FF7DF31-6FEB-4B98-8998-0C5893C8618F@rocktreesky.com>

> Dec. 18 IRC meeting Summary and Log
> ---------------
> This is a summary of the IRC meeting held December 18. The IRC log  
> is available here: http://pastebin.com/f57aa5c9e
> **Announcements
> - The KDI sprint funding is pending so I'm starting to plan doc  
> sprints for next year at camps around the world. If folks are aware  
> of camps being planned, please keep me in the loop for a potential  
> sprints.
>
> - Re: the OG vs mailing list conversation, Moshe is open to tieing  
> the two together but none of the current solutions are solid. I'll  
> be getting more info on what's needed and who might help in the next  
> few weeks.
>
> **Status on Theme guide reorg http://groups.drupal.org/node/16594
> Overall the shake has been good and major pieces ahve been moved. We  
> had an extended discussion about using Diigo and agreed that it is a  
> useful tool with a few questions and caveats. We need to write up a  
> doc about how we want to use Diigo; best practices, conventions, etc.
>
> **More Getting Started org discussion
> Most of the meeting was spent discussing organizational issues for  
> the getting Started book (some initial discussion here: http://drupal.org/node/337079) 
> . For now, we'll leave the D5 GS guide alone and start a rework with  
> the D6 guide. We already moved the Install section up to a top level  
> in the book. We'll do the same for Build and Admin sections, i.e.  
> move that info out of http://drupal.org/getting-started/6, up a  
> level and then removing the Drupal 6 landing page. Read the  
> transcript, starting on line 90, to see the whole discussion.
>
> **Talk about redesign status
> MBD contract is over and they have delivered the style guide.  
> Implementation will need to be done by the community and the exact  
> next steps aren't dtermined yet. The Infra group (http://groups.drupal.org/drupalorg-redesign-infrastructure-team 
> ) is beginning work to split sites out and work on the upgrade to D6.
>
> **Discuss the new help system in core issues
> We ran out of time to talk about this one, so we'll move this to the  
> top of the next meeting agenda.

addi