<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 9-Nov-05, at 3:33 PM, Kieran Lal wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV>On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Richard Archer wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Does the theme have bugs in display?</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Does the theme have cross-browser problems?</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Do two themes I want to use put elements in different and</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">inconsistent place on the screen?</FONT></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>Based on feedback we believe it is these three. We can still go back and do some more research, but a quick review of bugs posted against these themes and discussions with themers make it clear.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>I think I've said this before. I'm not averse to have a FAQ for these questions...but they are absolutely out of scope for Drupal, since they are mainly CSS/browser bugs (i.e. it's not anything in Drupal itself). I realize that this IS the user interface for what most people deal with, so it is a high pain issue, but I see us having a very hard time actually solving anything.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>One thing I would like to suggest is a focus on verifying/marking themes as compliant. e.g. Bluemarine, box grey, etc. (base, but somewhat crappy themes) work perfectly across browsers. Many themes that use high degrees of CSS-fu will/are plagued by continuing cross-browser issues and/or workarounds. Maybe just update the description of these theme projects to indicate as such? If themers used box grey or bluemarine as a base to develop further themes, perhaps we would have less issues. In some ways, that is what the base CS theme is trying to do BUT it is too complex for the average person to just extend slightly. A really nice, bare bones, tableless CSS PHPTemplate would go a long way....</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>--</DIV><DIV> <DIV>Boris Mann</DIV><DIV>Vancouver 778-896-2747 San Francisco 415-367-3595</DIV><DIV>SKYPE borismann</DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.bryght.com">http://www.bryght.com</A></DIV> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>