<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Liza Sabater wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV>The CS theme now supports several layouts:</DIV><DIV>1) Columbus: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/columbus/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/columbus/screenshot.png</A></DIV><DIV>2) Declaration: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/declaration/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/declaration/screenshot.png</A></DIV><DIV>3) Federation: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/federation/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/federation/screenshot.png</A></DIV><DIV>4) Republica: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/republica/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/republica/screenshot.png</A></DIV><DIV>5) Wireframe: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/wireframe/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/wireframe/screenshot.png</A></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>!?!?! </DIV><DIV>Where are these themes? I've never seen them. Are these the new ones Trae is working on?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>They are inside the CivicSpace theme here: <FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0023F9" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://drupal.org/files/projects/civicspace-4.6.0.tar.gz">http://drupal.org/files/projects/civicspace-4.6.0.tar.gz</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0023F9" face="Lucida Grande" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style=""><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>When you install the CS theme you will presented with those 5 choices in the theme administration.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">5) Wireframe: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/wireframe/screenshot.png">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/layouts/wireframe/screenshot.png</A></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Still do not understand the concept behind this. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><A href="http://www.iawiki.net/action=browse&id=WireFrames&oldid=WireFrame">http://www.iawiki.net/action=browse&id=WireFrames&oldid=WireFrame</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Color, color grouping, typography, and graphics all have an impact on how we experience a site. If we want to focus on the information architecture of a site we need to ask some questions. Do we have the information we need on the site to accomplish the users goals? Is the information in a workflow that support the users tasks?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>To get an objective view of the information architecture we should test the IA of design without color, color grouping, typography, and graphics. The wireframe theme strips down the basics of just black and white. It looks like you are creating a black wireframe on a white background.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">Giving people the layouts they want right out of the box is a good way to help them not have to learn advanced CSS to use a tableless theme.</DIV><DIV style="">The CS theme also provides a range of Styles: <A href="http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/styles/">http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/themes/civicspace/styles/</A> so people don't have to be </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><DIV style="">CSS masters.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Have these been debugged? Democratica, Spreadfirefox and Lincoln's revenge were really buggy last time I used them. I chose to start with Friends Electric instead of Democratica for the YearlyKos design for that reason:</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>We cleared out the issue queue, but we are still working out the bugs.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Kieran</DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></BODY></HTML>