<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>Hi Laura, </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Sorry about not responding earlier. Your messages have been going to my BlogHer folder and for some reason I missed out on all your follow ups to my previous comments. I will be checking it out. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I am in the middle of an upgrade using the instructions at <A href="http://drupal.org/node/30699">http://drupal.org/node/30699</A> and, of course, something's wrong with what I am doing. I will be annotating that page thoroughly whenever I get the chance and if, only if, I am successful at this upgrade thing. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers, </DIV><DIV>liza</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 27.May.2006, at 09:28 PM, Laura Scott wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I wasn't really "inspired," but I was moved by Liza's eloquent post on the development list, as well as by upgrade angst expressed in various places in the field....<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I've had my frustrations in upgrading some sites -- mainly the first couple I built (initially in 4.5.0) where I made many mistakes. But I've always tried to take it all in the spirit of the Essential Given of Drupal: no backwards compatibility. I always covet the new features, so I tend not to linger long on previous releases ... but I do have clients who are not so up on the Drupal worldview.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So.... I added a page under "Is Drupal right for you?" when I did not find something similar. (If I missed something obvious, please let me know.)<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://drupal.org/node/65922">http://drupal.org/node/65922</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Your corrections, improvements, lacerating critiques are invited and welcome. I'm just trying to get a start going here on helping new folks understand the essential philosophy that enables Drupal to be as great as it is.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'm hoping that this may lead to some "best practices" for easing upgrades in the future (such has trying to avoid depending upon cul-de-sac modules that lose support, or not hacking core modules for short-term convenience).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>What do you all think?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Laura<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#066CBD"><B style="color: rgb(6, 108, 189); font-weight: bold; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></B></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#066CBD"><B style="color: rgb(6, 108, 189); font-weight: bold; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></B></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><B style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); font-weight: bold; ">pingVision, LLC</SPAN></B></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); ">4450 Arapahoe Ave, Suite 100</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); ">Boulder, CO 80303</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.pingv.com"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">www.pingv.com</SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); ">303.415.2559</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF4300"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 67, 0); "><A href="mailto:inquiry@pingv.com">inquiry@pingv.com</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "></SPAN><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Pending work: <A href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List archives: <A href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>