<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Aug 29, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Steven Peck wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">So…. It's been eight months since I re-did the handbook…. Anyone tried 4.8/5.0? Thoughts, suggestions? It's a bit different. I have some rather radical thoughts but really want to hear other people's suggestions first.</SPAN></FONT></P></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>First, I would like to see a documentation survey done again. We had 200 responses to the first one and it helped us to discover the previous categorization. I'd like to see someone step forward to fund an online categorization exercise if possible. $100-400.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Second, much of what needs to be improved in the handbook is evident from the summary pages we have put together.</DIV><DIV><A href="http://drupal.org/handbook/comments">http://drupal.org/handbook/comments</A> -- handbook pages with comments</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>- mostly advanced development topics which indicates a need for strong technical editing</DIV><DIV><A href="http://drupal.org/moderation-queue">http://drupal.org/moderation-queue</A> --moderation queue</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>-again more advanced development topics</DIV><DIV><A href="http://drupal.org/handbook/most-popular-pages">http://drupal.org/handbook/most-popular-pages</A> -- most popular</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>-Most popular continues to be dominated by about Drupal, installing Drupal, basic configuration, and upgrading. Site recipes only has 50K page views, Drupal gallery has 120K indicating that there is not a strong a demand for this information as other information. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Third, most popular search terms should be incorporated into the handbook design. Perhaps a frequently updated tag cloud.</DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Anonymous users: # cck (193) , # filemanager (155) , # tinymce (143) , # flexinode (142) , # gallery (131)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </SPAN>Authenticated users: * cck (136), * sort flexinode (90), * customizing login (79), * views (70), * TinyMCE (67)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Putting together a much better About section for Drupal would probably have a bigger impact and more people would read it. Re-organizations are time consuming and without some audience research to back them up, I would question if this was a useful effort.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I'd rather see more videos addressing About Drupal, Installing Drupal, and basic configuration.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Cheers,</DIV><DIV>Kieran<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; ">Steven</SPAN></FONT></P></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>