<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ah, I didn't think to look for lists under 4.7 since I was looking at 5 and there didn't look to be a "general" list. The handbooks should probably get a little organizational love there. But this still relies on outside websites to host most of these videos and it would be cool/better if we could host them at d.o somehow so we don't lose these when someone's site blips off the web radar. This is the same idea as not wanting offsite handbooks, it is just the medium is video not text. I understand that hosting may be a make or break issue, but maybe this is something the Association can help with once they get a budget rolling. Or maybe I just need to host it elsewhere and get over it not being centralized. :)<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- Addi</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 28, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Thom wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I like the videocasts, I’ve watched several of them and want to watch a few more. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Here’s the list of Drupal video repositories from the 4.7 screencast overview page. If you look in the comments for the following page, you’ll see that people are still adding links to videos as recently as last week. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><A href="http://drupal.org/node/63155"><B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold">http://drupal.org/node/63155</SPAN></B></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <H2><B><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Drupal repositories you may find useful to find future screencasts and video casts.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></B></H2><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><A href="http://drupal.org/videocasts">Videocasts on Drupal.org</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><A href="http://www.lullabot.com/videocast">Lullabot videocasts</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><A href="http://blip.tv/posts/?topic_name=drupal">Videocasts on Blip.tv</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><A href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=drupal">Videocasts on Google Videos</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thom K in CA</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN style="color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">--------------------------------------------</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN style="color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><A href="http://www.ThisIsWhatDemocracyLooksLike.com">www.ThisIsWhatDemocracyLooksLike.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN style="color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy"> </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> documentation-bounces@drupal.org [<A href="mailto:documentation-bounces@drupal.org">mailto:documentation-bounces@drupal.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Addi <ST1:STATE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Berry</ST1:PLACE></ST1:STATE><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 02/28/2007 10:53 AM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:documentation@drupal.org">documentation@drupal.org</A><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [documentation] Video documentation</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">I would like to know if drupal.org might consider coming up with a process of some sort for having people donate videos for documentation. I wanted to raise it first here on the docs list to see if this has already been discussed before (in a concrete we could do it this way or a "no" from infra) and what the feeling is about if/how we would do this before I even bothered raising the issue with infra. I have seen some discussion around it in the archives but nothing really substantive in terms of implementation ideas. I know that certain "sanctioned" videos for each new upgrade say are made available and apparently the dojo screencasts will be hosted by d.o but those are pretty controlled circumstances.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">My main thought behind looking at this is because of the desire to keep as much drupal help here at d.o rather than splintering. There seem to be a number of individuals that have created video tutorials on Drupal but they are all off the main d.o path. My organization is going to let me give any training videos I create on the job back to the Drupal community but they don't want to host them (or even really be associated with them once released - long story). So how do I give these back to the community? One option is to open up the drupaldojo sites to host them but I don't see that as being a good solution, due to bandwidth issues (since individuals are hosting these sites) and the whole splintering issue again. I guess each time I create one I could go to infra and ask them and see what they say, but well that seems tedious for both myself and infra and doesn't really help with what to "do" with it in terms of the handbook even if infra is willing to host on the d.o server.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">So, if we were to propose something to d.o about this, what exactly would/should be the parameters? In saying "about this" I mean that instead of just individuals asking for videos to be hosted if they think to ask, that we actually come up with a standard process for people to submit videos and even advertise the fact on d.o. Is this an idea worth pursuing at this time? How would it "integrate" into the existing handbook? Ideas, concerns, suggestions, STFUs?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><SPAN style="border-spacing: 0px 0px;text-align:auto;-khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto;orphans: 2;widows: 2;word-spacing:0px"> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><SPAN style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">- Addi (add1sun)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><SPAN style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><SPAN style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black"><BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </SPAN></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV> </O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Pending work: <A href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">List archives: <A href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>