<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Angela Byron</b> <<a href="mailto:drupal-docs@webchick.net">drupal-docs@webchick.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 8-Aug-07, at 4:22 PM, Steven Peck wrote:<br><br><br>> The handbooks are a wiki for people with appropriate rights. There<br>> are 98 of these people currently. <a href="http://drupal.org/node/109372">http://drupal.org/node/109372
</a><br>><br>> current from: <a href="http://drupal.org/handbook/new-contributions">http://drupal.org/handbook/new-contributions</a><br>> "In the past week, a total of 25 handbook pages were created. Of<br>> those, 18 were spam. Of the 7 added, 5 were created by people not on
<br>> the documentation team:"<br>><br>> Before moderation was taken out, I did in fact open the handbook up to<br>> editing to a wider role. The moderation behavior was very annoying<br>> but the simple fact is page vandalism was worse then the above
<br>> statistic.<br>><br><br>The other problem is, "who is actually looking at these pages to see<br>whether or not they've been vandalised?"</blockquote><div><br>Ok, well we can add a most recent updates to the handbooks main page and draw attention that way. As far as I know /handbooks does get a lot of attention.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The reason Wikipedia works so well is because documentation is ALL<br>that they do. There are literally thousands of people eyeballing the
<br>equivalent of <a href="http://drupal.org/handbook/updates">http://drupal.org/handbook/updates</a> per hour. <a href="http://drupal.org">drupal.org</a><br>has 98 people *in total* on the docs team (out of 160,000+ users),
<br>and maybe... what? 2 of them following that page with any degree of<br>consistency?</blockquote><div><br><br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Captchas are a barrier to people contributing, and I would argue<br>moreso than a simple "I'd like to be on the docs team" post, which is<br>all we currently ask. I no longer contribute content to<br><a href="http://groups.drupal.org">
groups.drupal.org</a> because the captchas are such a frigging pain.<br><br>Finally, docs team members also gain extra privileges, such as the<br>ability to post images and upload files, so it makes sense to put<br>*some* barrier to entry in front of them. Making "documentation
<br>maintainer" and "authenticated user" synonymous means that instead of<br>posting links about viagra, spammers can now illustrate its effects<br>with pictures. Sounds like fun.</blockquote><div><br>Ok, well one proposal would be to come up to a automated role promotion. If you have made 3 posts anywhere on
<a href="http://Drupal.org">Drupal.org</a> that haven't been unpublished or deleted, after two weeks, you are now a documentation maintainer. If you have a CVS account and make regular commits or if you post issues you are also now a documentation maintainer.
<br><br>Could we make captcha only necessary for people who haven't received the minimum promotion beyond authenticated user?<br><br>Feedback, other suggestions?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Kieran<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-Angie<br><br>--<br>Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/">
http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.<br>