Hi Ricco,<br><br>I'm still confused after reading your e-mail which of the following is your primary passion right now:<br><br>a. making Drupal, the software, a really great platform for wiki implementations<br><br>or <br>
<br>b. improving wiki functionality for the documentation sections at <a href="http://Drupal.org">Drupal.org</a>.<br><br>Though you can argue that a and b are certainly related, I think it would help folks to understand which of the two is your first interest in order to figure out the best way for you to get involved.<br>
<br>As an FYI, in order to see the "edit" tab on documentation pages at <a href="http://drupal.org">drupal.org</a>, one need only join the documentation team, by submitting a request at <a href="http://drupal.org/project/documentation">http://drupal.org/project/documentation</a>.<br>
<br>It can be a little tricky figuring out exactly how and where to help in Drupal, especially at the beginning. But I really hope you figure it out. I myself am very much interested in developing wiki functionality on a couple of sites right now and I too think that Drupal can be way more powerful with easier UI than Mediawiki.<br>
<br>All the best,<br><br>Shai<br><a href="http://content2zero.com">content2zero</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM, <<a href="mailto:ricco@webulite.com">ricco@webulite.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,<br>
<br>
I tried to begin a group called <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/wikihelp" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/wikihelp</a> after<br>
someone in the wiki group suggested I start a group.<br>
<br>
The group moderators posted me asking for more information about the goals<br>
<br>
you can see that response at <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/10369" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/10369</a><br>
<br>
I am getting the impression the group I would like to start is not going<br>
to be approved. One of the Drupal Gods posted me and suggested I join the<br>
documentation email list, so here I am.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that wiki documentation would be much more useful if it<br>
incorporated wiki functionality. Allowing people (perhaps members only) to<br>
edit pages as <a href="http://wikipedia.org" target="_blank">wikipedia.org</a> allows, AND allows the freelinking feature to<br>
allow one to include [[page name]] type references. Which are both<br>
currently possible with the <a href="http://groups.drupal.org" target="_blank">groups.drupal.org</a> pages, but not <a href="http://drupal.org" target="_blank">drupal.org</a><br>
pages which are where the documentation pages seem to be. In addition,<br>
there is no "Edit" tab in Drupal doc pages allowing users to edit them. I<br>
believe Doc editing should be incredibly simple and obvious for even the<br>
most beginning user, if you hope to get your users involved in<br>
participating in documentation. And the wiki environment seems to be such<br>
an obvious documentation environment implementation. Look at the<br>
popularity of <a href="http://wikipedia.org" target="_blank">wikipedia.org</a>.<br>
<br>
I have talked with folks in the IRC chat, the wiki group, and recently<br>
tried to as you see start <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp" target="_blank">groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp</a><br>
<br>
Am I barking up the wrong tree? Am I fighting against the philsophy of the<br>
Drupal developer community? If so, I will just fade into the woodwork, and<br>
become a Drupal user, instead of attempting to get involved in helping to<br>
write documentation for the beginner level.<br>
<br>
If, on the other hand, there is a wiki project happening, or one about to<br>
happen that I am unaware of... I would appreciate people turning me on to<br>
it. I would be happy to spend time helping to doucment wiki functionality<br>
of Drupal, and even get involved in documenting other non-wiki<br>
functionality of drupal if Drupal is working on any kind of wiki<br>
documentation project. I have worked on documentation and tech writing and<br>
tech support in the past, so I have some experience. I would be willing<br>
and happy to be involved in helping with the very beginning documentation<br>
for beginning users, so that more people that look at Drupal start with<br>
it, instead of turning to a mediawiki install because it seems simple to<br>
get up. In the long run, and even the short run, Drupals permissioning<br>
system make Drupal a superior choice for a wiki implementation, so if we<br>
can make setting up a wiki easier for even the most beginning site<br>
manager, we will capture more initial installs.<br>
<br>
I got the time and the interest, if someone can direct me.<br>
<br>
Cheers! Ricco<br>
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