Chiming in for support for Ricco's initiative! Not a replacement, but an addition sounds great.<br><br>Let not this tremendous energy go untapped!<br><br>Best,<br><br>Margie<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:02 AM, <<a href="mailto:ricco@webulite.com">ricco@webulite.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Steve,<br>
<br>
What you seem to be saying is that I am not missing something. That I<br>
cannot simply sign up to get a "EDIT PAGE" tab at the top of all doc<br>
pages. Assuming you are familiar with how the doc system works more than<br>
me, and your comment was inspired by my post.<br>
<br>
If you go to <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp</a>, and follow any link to any<br>
page off the front, you will see they are wiki pages, and anyone then just<br>
clicks EDIT, and edits the page (would be cool if <a href="http://groups.drupal.org" target="_blank">groups.drupal.org</a> wiki<br>
pages had the TALK tab implemented and the wiki page content type had a<br>
default to "enable comments read/write, but that is a future feature, not<br>
one currently implemented in the <a href="http://groups.drupal.org" target="_blank">groups.drupal.org</a> world.) And yes,<br>
mediawiki calls what you are talking about a WATCH LIST, and you can sign<br>
up to monitor pages changes. And of course certain mediawiki gods can see<br>
revisions and undo bad edits.<br>
<br>
But you see how easy <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp</a> pages are to edit?<br>
That was why I set the group up. I don't see what is unDrupal about it...<br>
in fact it seems to be simply a group like the 260 other groups, that<br>
allows members to create wiki pages like the other groups offer. It seems<br>
kind of odd that the moderators would allow a "spain drupal users group"<br>
or many of the other 260+ groups, but not tolerate a "WikiHelp" group. Not<br>
sure how it can hurt things, and it seems like it would be an<br>
experimentation environment that would help shed light on if the drupal<br>
doc group is not getting members because it is too hard to work, or if<br>
simply nobody care about documentation.<br>
<br>
I would bet that the WikiHelp group in 6 months would accumulate a great<br>
deal of user input simply because of the ease of it's use.<br>
<br>
It sounds like what you are implying is that there is a sort of heavy<br>
monitoring of the ability to edit doc pages, and that the goal is to keep<br>
every Tom, Dick, and Harry from doing updates. If that is the case, I<br>
simply have a totally philsophically different approach to how to get your<br>
user community to maintain and participate in documentation.<br>
<br>
So at this point I am trying to determine if it is a matter of I am<br>
missing how to become a documenter, becoming on, and then pointing out how<br>
you folks can change the drupal doc pages so that others that follow can<br>
change drupal doc pages simply by clicking one link... or... if Drupal<br>
purposely does not want every Tom dick and harry changing the docs... In<br>
which case you folks have to decide if you want to allow me to make make<br>
the <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp</a> group, and see if i can prove that<br>
the fully open system will give you better docs in the long run... or if I<br>
should just forget about documentation, and go back to just being a Drupal<br>
user instead of trying to get involved with helping with Docs.<br>
<br>
Cheers! Ricco<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
> Seems like a simple text link on top of every doc page that said:<br>
><br>
> "Click here to help improve this document," or something to that<br>
> effect, with a link to the appropriate page on how to contribute to<br>
> documentation would be nice.<br>
><br>
> I don't know what the thinking is behind the application for document<br>
> contributors is. Perhaps the hurdle is there to improve the signal to<br>
> noise ratio?<br>
><br>
> One thing drupal's wiki feature lack is the ability to send out email<br>
> notifications when a page is updated. I think this is a crucial<br>
> feature that's needed before opening up documentation to every Tom,<br>
> Dick, and Harry who wants to change a page. That feature should<br>
> probably implemented before documentation became more open. This would<br>
> make catching bad edits more timely.<br>
<br>
<br>
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