<div dir="ltr">---> One big plus + to Talk system. IMHO is a very good base to start over.<div>Thanks for the very reachfull feedback.</div><div>@wolfflow<br><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Lee Hunter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lee.hunter@hum.com">lee.hunter@hum.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">There are two features of Wikipedia that I sorely miss in the Drupal docs.<br>
<br>
One is the existence of a "Talk" page on a separate tab with each<br>
article. This is one of the best ways I've seen to gather comments and<br>
suggestions. With only the "comments" feature enabled (the status<br>
quo), you wind up with just a linear and sequential view of everything<br>
everyone ever said about the article. With the Wikipedia style Talk<br>
page, anyone could refactor and archive old conversations and you<br>
could put more important stuff (like a "to do" list for the article)<br>
at the top and important contributions to the dialog could be<br>
highlighted and flagged.<br>
<br>
The other thing I sorely miss from Wikipedia, is the ability to add<br>
ad-hoc categories and sub-categories. The current information<br>
architecture of the Drupal documentation (especially outside the<br>
developer docs) is - and I'm struggling to be diplomatic here - just<br>
horrible horrible horrible horrible. And it seems that gaining<br>
consensus for major structural fixes is difficult in this kind of open<br>
source environment. However, if we could use categories like they do<br>
in Wikipedia (it's actually a kind of hierarchical free tagging) you<br>
wouldn't necessarily have to change the current information<br>
architecture at all. The ability to apply multiple tags and to<br>
organize them in a variety of hierarchies would provide incredibly<br>
useful ways to navigate the information and it would allow people to<br>
organically associate related content. The worst thing about the<br>
current Drupal docs is the amount of related content that has been<br>
split into meaningless silos. For example, if I'm trying to find<br>
information about managing users, do I look in HowTos, Tutorials,<br>
Snippets, Understanding Drupal, Videos and Slides, Getting Started,<br>
Contributed Modules, Troubleshooting FAQ or all of the above? The<br>
answer, of course, is "all of the above and a whole lot more". But if<br>
we had some kind of tagging system, I'd only need to find one<br>
administering user article and I'd be able to very easily see all the<br>
rest just by clicking the "managing users" tag. It wouldn't matter<br>
whether it was a contributed module, snippet, video, tutorial, how to,<br>
troubleshooting and that's great because when I'm looking for<br>
something I totally do not care in the least whether somebody else<br>
considers it a howto, module, tutorial or tomato. As long as it<br>
relates to my problem, that's what I want to see!<br>
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Lee Hunter<br>
Technical Editor<br>
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Mike Parisi <<a href="mailto:mgparisi@rochester.rr.com">mgparisi@rochester.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The problem with this PHP.org is that some comments are incorrect and have<br>
> to be corrected, no one has permissions to do this so the comments become<br>
> replies after replies after replies. Maybe we should just give everyone<br>
> permission to write and edit comments to the documentation. Even give them<br>
> the ability to edit other peoples comments. I know there is some<br>
> restriction to the API that prevents this so maybe we should just link each<br>
> API and Document to an open WIKI page.<br>
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