Addi and documentors,<br>
<br>
+1<br>
<br>
I really like the idea of creating a "New pages" book and restricting "filing" to site maintainers and docs team members.<br>
<br>
In addition to those nodes being instantly published, searchable and
easily accessible to their authors before they are "filed" --- is the
new site planning on any tagging goodness? Tags could also have the
affect of making this data more easily findable.<br>
<br>
Shai<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Addison Berry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drupal@rocktreesky.com" target="_blank">drupal@rocktreesky.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
So before our meeting (<a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/163430" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/163430</a> I wanted<br>
to toss out my impressions and thoughts about the open editing trial<br>
we are running. First, I want to say that I think it is going pretty<br>
well. There was an initial "rush" after we announced and a number of<br>
folks were just testing things out. That seems to have died down and<br>
typically the edits I am seeing are good, helpful edits. I've not seen<br>
anything spammy or purposely "vandalized" myself. Definitely more<br>
edits overall and some of them need a little cleanup or guidance, but<br>
that is no more than we get from new team members honestly. So,<br>
overall I'd say that we should keep going with the open editing. We've<br>
gotten some good help and fewer test/weirdness/spam with it (so far)<br>
than we do with new page creation. Which leads me to....<br>
<br>
One thing that has kinda bugged me for a while, and has also been<br>
pointed out by other folks, is that while allowing anyone to create<br>
new pages definitely adds to the knowledge, we get lots of test pages<br>
and pages in the "wrong" place. Most people who test often make a<br>
silly page in the Getting Started guide, which is the worst place for<br>
cruft. Now, we are definitely moving forward on reorganizing the docs<br>
(check out the redesign thread, <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/15965" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/15965</a>).<br>
Once we figure out what we are doing and the best way to implement,<br>
I'm inclined to keep a bit of a tighter rein on things. Now, I have<br>
high hopes that the "speed bump" (<a href="http://drupal.org/node/307650" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/node/307650</a>) will<br>
eventually get worked out and that will help to a degree and I think<br>
completely cutting of page creation rights will end up losing some<br>
valuable docs. Pure moderation also seems a bit too much for us right<br>
now and people could end up with new content inaccessible for long<br>
periods.<br>
<br>
So, for now, I'm thinking about having a "holding" book. Basically we<br>
could let people create new pages, but they would not get to choose<br>
the location and it would go into a new book for this purpose. (We<br>
would completely restrict the ability to choose a parent for folks<br>
that edit as well, if they aren't on the docs team, so that people<br>
don't create, then move.) I guess I'm thinking of a published<br>
moderation queue. Then doc team and site maintainers could check the<br>
book regularly, quickly deleting test and spam. We can assess good<br>
book pages and place them appropriately. While they are "holding" they<br>
will still be accessible to search and to authors who wish to improve<br>
the page. Now I haven't thought it all through but I just wanted to<br>
posit the idea and see what folks think - good, bad, different ideas.<br>
<br>
<br>
- Addi (add1sun)<br>
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