I opened this Dimdim room - <br><a href="http://webmeeting.dimdim.com:80/portal/JoinForm.action?meetingRoomName=drupaldojo">http://webmeeting.dimdim.com:80/portal/JoinForm.action?meetingRoomName=drupaldojo</a><br><br>If it doesn't work out, we can talk on skype or irc.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kristof Van Tomme <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kvantomme@gmail.com">kvantomme@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I've prepared a mindmap agenda for the meeting that will take place in<br>
1h15 min - to make it easier to take notes (see attached)<br>
<br>
If you have any points you think we should discuss that you can't see<br>
here, send a reply please.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Kristof<br>
<br>
<br>
If you don't use mindmap it's the following points:<br>
<br>
3 strategies<br>
dojo like class series<br>
aggregate the worthy<br>
aggregate everything<br>
<br>
what kind of materials<br>
audio<br>
video<br>
online<br>
written?<br>
<br>
how to promote materials?<br>
community vote<br>
advantages<br>
disadvantages<br>
rating squad<br>
advantages<br>
disadvantages<br>
<br>
storage strategy<br>
own servers<br>
using places like the internet archive<br>
<br>
integration with d.o.<br>
<br>
multi lingual content<br>
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<br>
<br>
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2009/2/9 Kristof Van Tomme <<a href="mailto:kvantomme@gmail.com">kvantomme@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">> Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?<br>
><br>
> Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check<br>
> your timezone!<br>
><br>
> If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:<br>
> <a href="http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu</a><br>
><br>
> I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?<br>
><br>
><br>
> cheers,<br>
> Kristof<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <<a href="mailto:kvantomme@gmail.com">kvantomme@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>> Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,<br>
>><br>
>> We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday<br>
>> or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.<br>
>><br>
>> If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the<br>
>> brainstorming vote at:<br>
>> <a href="http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu</a><br>
>><br>
>> cheers,<br>
>> Kristof<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <<a href="mailto:gus@pepperalley.com">gus@pepperalley.com</a>>:<br>
>>> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like Monday or<br>
>>> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim<br>
>>> (<a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806</a>) to get everyone on the same page for<br>
>>> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a top<br>
>>> priority.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she has a<br>
>>> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any innovation<br>
>>> makes it back into the official documentation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and we'll<br>
>>> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good thread to<br>
>>> jump in - <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832</a>) and #drupal-dojo IRC.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ok, i've put some times in too!<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Addison Berry wrote:<br>
>>>> > I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not consider<br>
>>>> > myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone<br>
>>>> > else, please go with it.<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > - Addi<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> >> Hi,<br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?<br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up<br>
>>>> >> <a href="http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu</a><br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >> cheers,<br>
>>>> >> Kristof<br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <<a href="mailto:gus@pepperalley.com">gus@pepperalley.com</a>>:<br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> >>> Hi,<br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives<br>
>>>> >>> complimentary<br>
>>>> >>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give<br>
>>>> >>> you some<br>
>>>> >>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of<br>
>>>> >>> them -<br>
>>>> >>> <a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832</a><br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject<br>
>>>> >>> (<a href="http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873" target="_blank">http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873</a>) and the goal is to create<br>
>>>> >>> something<br>
>>>> >>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official<br>
>>>> >>> channels<br>
>>>> >>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.<br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,<br>
>>>> >>> and it<br>
>>>> >>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very<br>
>>>> >>> valuable to<br>
>>>> >>> the community.<br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>> Come join the fun!<br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't<br>
>>>> >>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late<br>
>>>> >>>> at<br>
>>>> >>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.<br>
>>>> >>>><br>
>>>> >>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:<br>
>>>> >>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> Hi George,<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about<br>
>>>> >>>>> the bookmarks.<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> What about<br>
>>>> >>>>> -multi-lingual resources?<br>
>>>> >>>>> -my offer to help?<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the<br>
>>>> >>>>> next<br>
>>>> >>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if<br>
>>>> >>>>> Paris wins).<br>
>>>> >>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>> >>>>> Kristof<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> 2009/2/4 George <<a href="mailto:g@8vue.com">g@8vue.com</a>>:<br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.<br>
>>>> >>>>>> That's why<br>
>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as<br>
>>>> >>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though)<br>
>>>> >>>>>> to<br>
>>>> >>>>>> allow the site to grow.<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that<br>
>>>> >>>>>> was the<br>
>>>> >>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!<br>
>>>> >>>>>> maybe it<br>
>>>> >>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway<br>
>>>> >>>>>> to track<br>
>>>> >>>>>> the comments on the original site...<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would<br>
>>>> >>>>>> assume<br>
>>>> >>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio,<br>
>>>> >>>>>> or<br>
>>>> >>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different<br>
>>>> >>>>>> explanations of<br>
>>>> >>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have<br>
>>>> >>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they<br>
>>>> >>>>>> favour one<br>
>>>> >>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for<br>
>>>> >>>>>> videos.<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)<br>
>>>> >>>>>> how to<br>
>>>> >>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed<br>
>>>> >>>>>> off<br>
>>>> >>>>>> with<br>
>>>> >>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a<br>
>>>> >>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them<br>
>>>> >>>>>> off for<br>
>>>> >>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better<br>
>>>> >>>>>> vids, which<br>
>>>> >>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200<br>
>>>> >>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under<br>
>>>> >>>>>> cck<br>
>>>> >>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be<br>
>>>> >>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk<br>
>>>> >>>>>> of<br>
>>>> >>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these<br>
>>>> >>>>>> two.<br>
>>>> >>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting<br>
>>>> >>>>>> resources to<br>
>>>> >>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where<br>
>>>> >>>>>> necessary.<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and<br>
>>>> >>>>>> start<br>
>>>> >>>>>> with<br>
>>>> >>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!<br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?<br>
>>>> >>>>>> --<br>
>>>> >>>>>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>>>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>> --<br>
>>>> >>>>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>>><br>
>>>> >>>> --<br>
>>>> >>>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>>><br>
>>>> >>> --<br>
>>>> >>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >>><br>
>>>> >> --<br>
>>>> >> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> >><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > --<br>
>>>> > Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> > List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Pending work: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/" target="_blank">http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/</a><br>
>>> List archives: <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/</a><br>
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