Kazar, thanks for the initiative, Tom, thanks for those screen shots.<br><br>Whoa... I hadn't noticed the new <b>role</b> that comes <b>pre-configured</b>, the "Administrator." (Not sure if this is in the "minimal" install or not).<br>
<br>Here is the thread in the queue that created it: <br><a href="http://drupal.org/node/480660">http://drupal.org/node/480660</a><br><br>This administrator role is different from "user/1 that you create when you install the site and who is still the "super-user." Not sure if the initial help-text still refers to user/1 as an "administrative account" which would be a bad idea with the new pre-installed "administrator" <b>role</b>. User/1 should be referred to as "Super-user" which doesn't have that "admin" sound in it all.<br>
<br>Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure the Administrator pre-configured role is mostly for convenience and promoting best practices when setting up a site (setting up an administrator role outside of user/1 with lots of permissions pre-set). However, I do think there is some extra functionality whereby when a new module is installed it automatically assigns all its permissions to the administrator's role. You could then unset them after that. I'm not totally sure about this. It's a similar functionality to the following contrib module now for 5 and 6: <a href="http://drupal.org/project/adminrole">http://drupal.org/project/adminrole</a><br>
<br>But anyway... in the context of this list, this is to flag that this is a significant change from D6 and so the manual will be important in describing this.<br><br>Shai<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Jeremy John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmjohn@riseup.net" target="_blank">jmjohn@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Shai,<br>
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This is an interesting idea:<div><br>
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"The last dev. version of 7 that I saw called minimal "expert" which I have a real problem with. I actually think someone's learning curve with Drupal would be vastly improved by actually creating the content type at the beginning. A bit longer for sure to set up, but they will actually understand what a content type is and the relationship between those settings and a content-type."<br>
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If folks were to be walked through a content-creation "wizard" with all of the steps and good explanations of what a content type (and for that matter what a node was), then this might be useful. However, if it's just another thing that doesn't work out of the box on Drupal, then it's a bad idea, then they'll be too frustrated to even learn what a node is. I've watched people time and time again walk away from a fresh Drupal install because they can't figure out how to say, upload images or install a WYSIWYG editor.<br>
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Shai Gluskin wrote:<br>
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Kazar,<br>
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Let me preface this by saying that D7 is not done and is being changed every day. I've installed it once and poked around briefly. So that's the grain of salt you need to take this with.<br>
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"Standard" comes with two "content-types" already created like with D6. It comes with the "article" (replaces "story" from D6 -- but it is just a label change) content-type which has commenting turned on by default and "submitted by" information turned on by default and also "promoted to front page" turned on by default. The second content-type is "page" which has commenting, "submitted-by", and "Promote to front page" all turned off by default.<br>
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"Minimal" does not come with any content types set up so you have to add a content-type before you can add content to the site. As part of adding the content-type you set the comment defaults and also the work-flow (published, promotoed to front, sticky), and submitted-by default settings as part of creating your first content-type.<br>
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The last dev. version of 7 that I saw called minimal "expert" which I have a real problem with. I actually think someone's learning curve with Drupal would be vastly improved by actually creating the content type at the beginning. A bit longer for sure to set up, but they will actually understand what a content type is and the relationship between those settings and a content-type.<br>
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Shai<br>
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