has it occurred to the developers that it is not their job to get the system to that "not there yet"?<br><br>if you are a developer just doing it for the fun and love of it, you are never going to be done. the hobbyist kind that you describe have no incentive in finishing a module or the platform. in their mind, if they did, they would have nothing to play with anymore.<br>
<br>as long as it is the developers making the decisions of what is "the Drupal product" we are never going to have one. which is why i want to posit this: IT IS NOT UP TO THE DEVELOPERS TO DECIDE WHAT IS THE DRUPAL *PRODUCT*. <br>
<br>that job is really left to the community of non-coders, of the people who actually have to assemble the pieces of modules & themes to build sites. *the product* is not the platform because *the platform* is never going to be done. <br>
<br>and for the community to find out what the Drupal product is, we need to have installation profiles and official distributions that the whole community is working on improving and perfecting as baselines for bigger and better possibilities. <br>
<br>of course, if they dont get into the distributions, that may not make a lot of developers happy. and am going to wager that part of the resistance to making Drupal.org and Drupal more user-friendly is exactly that: if you are doing it for the love of coding, you really dont want to have to deal with the vagaries of actual competition :) <br>
<br>but it is necessary. we need baseline distros for a Drupal product or products to be thoroughly tested and perfected. because, you know what? the Drupal platform is never going to be done. ever.<br><br>/liza<br><br> <br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Steve Dondley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s@dondley.com">s@dondley.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div id=":22o" class="ii gt">So, we're not there yet. Right now, you still need to get some grease<br>
on your hands and you may still have to plow through some hairy<br>
technical manuals depending on what your needs are. Sorry, that's just<br>
the way it is at this stage of Drupal's development.</div></blockquote></div><br>