[support] How to insert links to other pages on the same site?

[cl at isbd.net]

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 02:02:15PM -0800, Earl Miles wrote:
> cl at isbd.net wrote:
> 
> > I think what I was hoping for (but doesn't seem to exist yet) is
> > something like the report creation part of Access, or the Forms in
> > Access.  That isn't remotely WYSIWYG but it allows you to play about
> > with the whole report/form in one window.  Exponent *attempts* to be a
> > bit like this but fails because it (like Drupal) has modules and stuff
> > which you can't change or even get at easily when you're editing
> > content.
> 
> What you ask is actually a very difficult thing to do in a browser. It can be 
> done, and there are sites out there that do it, but it requires some *very* 
> good javascript programmers and a lot of time and knowledge. To my knowledge 
> there really aren't tools like this in opensource, at least not in the basic 
> browser context.
> 
> If that's what you want and/or expect, it isn't something you'll get, 
> unfortunately. It's pretty easy to do at the OS layer when you have a lot of 
> widgets and tools, but the browser is *very* limited it what it can present to 
> you. Javascript can go an extra step and do a lot of it, but Javascript has 
> browser compatability problems out the wazoo and the CSS required to place 
> things accurately is tedious at best and outright impossible at worst.
> 
I don't actually want/need it via the browser, I am very happy doing
all the management and editing of my web site on my home machine.
Some of the hosting is *also* on the home machine (personal stuff) and
the rest I feel it's a good idea to test off the live site anyway.  I
have shell access to all my hosting too.


> > I know that the flavour of the moment is separating content from
> > structure but when I'm designing a web page I want to be able to
> > change both from somewhere near the same place.
> 
> It's not really the flavour of the moment; it's the reality of the tools we 
> have available. Believe me, if wysiwyg were easy, there'd be a lot of it. 
> People really want it, it's a very common scenario. Heck, if you could make web 
> page editing like Word...well you can but you get really really crappy 
> output...and you don't do it in the browser, you do it in Word.
> 
But why aren't there good non-browser site management suites?  Or are
there some that I have missed?

-- 
Chris Green (chris at halon.org.uk)